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AWTY 5 - Moist Manor (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Diamond is Unbreakable)

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Speaker A:

The turtles.

Speaker B:

Give me the willies.

Speaker C:

Hello and welcome to are we there yet? An exploration and education and anime. I am Patrick dugan, your anime idiot.

Speaker B:

I am dana hollander, your anime expert.

Speaker A:

And I'm the other one, brenda mccullough.

Speaker C:

Well, today things are a little bit flipped. I am less of the anime idiot this week because we are dealing with a show that I have moderate knowledge of.

Speaker B:

Is it a little bit bizarre this week?

Speaker A:

It'll be quite the adventure.

Speaker C:

Jojo. So, yeah, we are covering jojo's bizarre adventure. Diamond is unbreakable this week. Also, I'll give you the heads up. I'm getting over a cold. So if I sound weird, that's because of that. This is a show I actually know a little bit about because I sort of worked on it a little bit for the season two dub. Wild, fancy, humble Brad. Yeah. But yeah, this is something I don't feel confident saying I know anything about in any respect. But when I hear some terms and names, I'll go, oh, yeah, I know that.

Speaker A:

That sounds familiar.

Speaker C:

Yeah. So what are your experiences or knowledge of Jojo, this long running thing?

Speaker B:

Well, Paul really likes it, but I've never been like, I think I want to watch that because when we were working at the studio, every time an actor came up from their session, they'd be like, what the fuck was that? And then I would say, Paul, I'm questioning your taste right now because it sounds really kind of gross. And boy, yeah, it probably no, from.

Speaker C:

What I've seen of the show, which are just snippets of season two. Also, I watched the first few episodes of the first season. Yeah, it can be gross.

Speaker A:

See, that surprises me because I know of it because, like you said, it's been going on for decades. It's one of the longest running, at least manga. I don't know how long the anime has been around, but the one thing that always sticks out is just beautiful boys. Just beautiful boys everywhere. So I'm surprised to hear it might be growth. I mean, I don't know much of, plot wise, what it's about, but like, art style is always just very striking and colorful.

Speaker B:

I see a lot of cosplay of it too, but that's like I've seen Cosplay from Stone Ocean, but that hasn't been animated yet.

Speaker C:

Yeah. One of the things that sort of struck me about this series and sort of piqued my interest was because each season sort of extends through different time periods. The first series starts in the 18 hundreds. It keeps changing art styles and characters with the throughline that Jojo is involved in the names of the main characters and also weirdly, like musical references.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I do know that the most recent season that's being animated, I forget what it's called, but the main character's name doesn't start with J O. His name is giorno. So people have a little problem with that.

Speaker A:

Jordan.

Speaker B:

Yeah. It's not dio jorno because he's dio's son. I know about dio. He's a musician.

Speaker C:

Yeah, he a bad.

Speaker A:

Most of what I know is fan art and cosplay in my peripheral from Anime Community because this is a wildly popular series that we all just happen to know nothing about. And the memes, it's just so many memes. Just full of memes. I know dio is a character. I think he's a vampire.

Speaker C:

Something like that.

Speaker A:

And yeah, I know there's a ton of classic eighty s seventy s rock music in this because apparently the creator is just a huge fan of American rock music. So I know that's both involved with either opening or ending sequences. And then a lot of characters are named similar stuff. I'm not sure, but I know it's heavily incorporated.

Speaker C:

Yeah. Like do is a reference to do in the first season. I forget the initials, but one of the characters name is ario speedwagon.

Speaker B:

Paul told me about that one and it made me very excited.

Speaker A:

Boy.

Speaker C:

There's a dog named Iggy after iggy Pop. There's good. Some clown boys named zenyatta Mandada police album.

Speaker A:

Don't like that. Don't like clown boys love clowns. Not a fan.

Speaker C:

Yeah. Glad we did not have to deal with them this week. Well, or do we? Let me we are going to watch episodes one, two and three and we will be back with how we feel.

Speaker B:

I'm nervous.

Speaker C:

Okay. We just watched the first three episodes of Diamond Is Unbreakable and I want to take a shower.

Speaker A:

I wish my spirit was unbreakable because it is shattered.

Speaker B:

Oh, boy.

Speaker A:

I mean, with the name Diamond Is Unbreakable part of me. It's just like Stephen Universe reference because I just binged it all like a few months ago. This is much different than Stephen universe. Much different.

Speaker B:

No, not the same.

Speaker C:

Not even a little. Get into it.

Speaker A:

I was expecting.

Speaker B:

Yeah. So episode one starts with, like, a guy talking on a radio broadcast. And I wrote good morning. I was like, oh, good morning. And then I wrote the words. This doesn't seem too bizarre. Not and then just a why? Because I was going to write yet. And then a big dash and wrote, I spoke too soon.

Speaker A:

Very similar to my notes. I was like, oh, this is so colorful. Oh, that's a hand.

Speaker B:

Because there's a hand. It's just a hand preparing breakfast.

Speaker C:

No. Yeah, my note was a severed hand. Did all of that. It had a lot of time.

Speaker A:

Yeah. I can't tell if it was like Cousin Hit from Adams Family where it was like the hand was doing it or if it was someone doing it and then their hand got cut off. But we didn't see that. I'm very confused.

Speaker B:

I mentioned it to Paul and he told me that it comes in later. I do.

Speaker A:

That was like long foreshadowing for the whole season.

Speaker B:

I guess so.

Speaker C:

Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker B:

Yeah. So that's just the beginning. That's, like, the first minute. There's no opening in this episode, but there is one in the next one.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Boy, is there?

Speaker B:

So it's April 1999. A period piece. I wasn't even three yet.

Speaker A:

Oh, God.

Speaker B:

Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker C:

We were both babies. Brandon, you were a slightly older baby.

Speaker B:

So adorable. And there is a young boy named koi chi narrating his walk to school, and he says, I met two bizarre men. Can you believe?

Speaker C:

I'd also like to mention koichi is like, hey, I'm koichi. That's not important. And okay, I did not write down his name at first because I was like, okay, thank you for telling me. I can disregard this character.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I wrote that's good, because I already forgot. And then in parentheses, I wrote Koiji, because I was like, obviously he's going to be more important than we thought. So is koichi run into Jotero? Yes. He's looking for someone.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

So koi chi runs into jotaro. Last name joe Star. Is that his last name, or is it something kujo?

Speaker C:

Kujo.

Speaker B:

Jotero kujo.

Speaker A:

Okay. I thought everyone just had the last name. Joe Star.

Speaker C:

No, Joseph. Joe star is Jotero's grandfather.

Speaker B:

Correct?

Speaker C:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Which we find out in a minute. So koi chi runs into jotaro when he's looking for a josuke, and I forget the last name. We're better cool. I didn't write it down because he's Josque.

Speaker A:

He's just gay.

Speaker B:

They then stumble upon joske, who is afraid to touch turtles.

Speaker A:

He's very particular. He's immediately full of more personality than most anime protagonists.

Speaker B:

He's got quite a style going on.

Speaker C:

Yeah, he got that flat tire hair.

Speaker A:

It looked like a grilled steak to me.

Speaker B:

Yeah, me too.

Speaker A:

The grill marks, but I noticed right away. God, I already forgot. Sorry, deraile and nothing to follow up with.

Speaker B:

Nice.

Speaker A:

You just cut that off. I'm sorry.

Speaker B:

Another thing is that koi chi mentions that Joe taro is a scientist. Like a famous scientist.

Speaker C:

Yes, he is a marine explorer.

Speaker B:

He doesn't look like a scientist.

Speaker A:

As soon as I saw him, I wrote down wrapping anime mccree from overwatch in the dub. It's very clearly Matt mercer, and I'm just like, I've seen Joe darrell pictures and stuff. I'm like, this isn't the one I'm used to. He's all white and I don't know, very hip hop to me. And his hair got to update his.

Speaker C:

Style with the times he was last seen ten years ago. This is a decade of fashion than have passed.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

His hair blends in with his hat. Like, it doesn't sit up and hopped with it. It, like, fused with it.

Speaker B:

It's a look.

Speaker A:

It's interesting.

Speaker C:

It's a lot going on.

Speaker B:

Josue is getting bullied by some ruffians, some youth, and they say, your name is Joskey. We're going to call you Jojo. And that's when you're like, oh, so he's the Jojo this time.

Speaker C:

We got it.

Speaker B:

The jojo changes every time. And this time it's josuke.

Speaker A:

As if it wasn't obvious just by the style and the piercing eyes and.

Speaker C:

Crazy hair and being mentioning that he's, like, 8ft tall.

Speaker B:

Yeah, he's the big boy.

Speaker C:

As a freshman in high school, very.

Speaker A:

Large, 16.

Speaker B:

I wrote that the bully hurt the turtle, and that made me very upset.

Speaker A:

I was not okay with how I love turtle.

Speaker C:

I wrote down turtle murder because that was not acceptable.

Speaker B:

He hurt the turtle. I'm very upset with a lot of exclamation points.

Speaker A:

It's just like turtle, but in really, like, scratch, scribbly handwriting because it's like, oh, no. God.

Speaker B:

Like, yeah, it made me sad.

Speaker A:

He threw it hard, though. He just tossed it, but it cracked the shell and stuff.

Speaker B:

Like, everyone in this universe has so.

Speaker A:

Much this entire show is extra as fuck.

Speaker B:

Yeah. And then they go on to insult his hair, which is apparently a very big no no because Joskey gets very mad.

Speaker C:

So mad. A dude pops at me.

Speaker A:

So angry I go on myself.

Speaker C:

Don't you hate when that happens? You get a little too mad and then a guy, just a man, pops up, beats up your antagonist.

Speaker B:

Yeah. It's like crona.

Speaker C:

Exactly.

Speaker A:

It all ties back.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

This is Anna Matt.

Speaker B:

So I know that this is his stand. And stands are like super powers. Yeah.

Speaker C:

Later in the episode, it's explained as a physical manifestation of psychological energy.

Speaker B:

Okay. I missed that.

Speaker A:

I thought it was like their soul ties in with it.

Speaker B:

Interesting.

Speaker C:

Yeah, there's a lot going on with it.

Speaker B:

Yeah. So not only is his stand shining diamond.

Speaker A:

Is that what it is?

Speaker C:

Crazy diamond.

Speaker B:

Crazy diamond.

Speaker A:

Which I believe is also a song reference.

Speaker B:

Yeah. It's shine on you, crazy diamond. Which is why yeah, his stand is not only very strong and can beat up some bullies, but it can also heal things. He heals the turtle, which made me very happy.

Speaker A:

Say okay in my book.

Speaker B:

Yes. I thought it was so funny. So his stand broke the bully's nose and then he healed his face, but in a funny way. And the other bullies were, like, looking at him and he was like, wait, what does my nose look like? Guys? Guys? And that cracked me up.

Speaker C:

Am I pretty still?

Speaker B:

Guys? daddy like a pretty baby.

Speaker A:

Well, they were saying how he's like, uglier now with this face all messed up, but honestly, I couldn't tell.

Speaker C:

No, he looked like an ugly anime villain to me. Either way, he was pretty ugly before.

Speaker A:

Oh, I really like when they zoomed down on I think it was, like, Jodoro and josie. They got the shadowing on them to be more dramatic, but there's crazy etchings and patterns in the shadows. It's not just like an overlay of, like, a color or something. There's all these crazy designs and everything.

Speaker B:

The style is very good.

Speaker C:

Yeah. There's a lot of intricate detail in all of this. That's really fascinating that they put that much effort into it.

Speaker B:

It suits the men really nicely. Like, all of the men are very handsome, and I like them. All very beautiful boys. But the girls end up kind of looking a little funny. Yeah, but that's shown in, I guess, sometimes.

Speaker A:

So sacrifice you must make for beautiful boys.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

They absorb the beauty around them.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker C:

Her beauty budget went to all the boys.

Speaker B:

That's part of their stand is that they just stuck up beauty from everything else. That's why everyone else is so ugly. So joski is pretty sensitive, soft boy when it comes to his hair and having to touch reptiles.

Speaker A:

Yeah. Well, it seems like he's soft about everything, and then when you mention the hair, he just becomes trigger happy. Not even, like, angry. He just wants to fight everything nuts.

Speaker B:

Yeah. He stands up and I wrote, why is he so big? And why is koichi so tiny?

Speaker A:

Just itty bitty boy.

Speaker B:

Just a very small boy. koi chi is I mean, I guess it's just to show how big they are, I guess.

Speaker C:

Maybe to distinguish him as, like, the man of the story and not the sidekick.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Kuychi is like a pocket son. Like, you could just pick him up and put it in your pocket. He's physically a sidekick.

Speaker B:

Yeah. He's adorable. And then they go on a walk with Joe tarot and during which he describes Josque's family situation, which I did not write down all of because I was watching the sub I just wrote. There's so much to unpack with this family.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

But from what I understand, Joseph, Jo star is joske's dad, and josie is illegitimate. And Paul was telling me, he was like people always say, like, why would you want to bang Joseph Jo Star? He's 62 years old. And I'm like, have you seen him?

Speaker C:

Because come on, have you seen the chisel details in that beautiful boy?

Speaker B:

Who boy? He's a man.

Speaker A:

That's a man.

Speaker B:

Joseph Jostar is a man. He also is in real estate. And koi chi is on the walk too. And it's just kind of like I thought you said you were an important koi chi. What's happening?

Speaker A:

Oh, wait, so yeah, Joe SC is Joseph Jostar's son, but that makes Josque Jodero's uncle while being, like, half his age.

Speaker B:

No, they'd be brothers. Joseph joseph?

Speaker A:

No, Joseph is Jodaro's grandfather.

Speaker B:

Grandfather. There you go. I thought you said he was his dad. I was like, Wait a minute.

Speaker C:

So many goddamn Joe names.

Speaker A:

He's josie's dad and he's Jodeau's grandfather.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker A:

So that means Jose Jodero's uncle.

Speaker B:

Yes. Even though he is younger.

Speaker A:

Yeah, it's weird. It's Dragon Ball gt all over again.

Speaker B:

Yeah. And I forget what Joskey says, but it prompted me to write, oh, Joskey doesn't want to start drama.

Speaker A:

Oh. He was saying, like, thank you for telling me who my real father is, but I don't want to annoy your family. With being popping down like an illegitimate child and causing more drama. He's like, I like my life the way it is, and me and my mom are happy, so we'll, you know, not bother you guys.

Speaker B:

Yeah. Which just shows further how good of a boy josuke is.

Speaker A:

Jose, he's a good, good boy.

Speaker B:

He is a good boy. I've heard that from two different people that have watched it before. People love Joe Sky.

Speaker A:

Can we do a weep there yet drinking game where someone takes a drink every time we say boy, oh, yes, we will die.

Speaker C:

We can't do a show about beautiful boys and then play this game.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So many boys.

Speaker B:

Also, the ladies love him. Who wouldn't?

Speaker A:

I mean, obviously he's a sensitive lad.

Speaker B:

He's sensitive. He's got style. He's got hair. He's got it all.

Speaker A:

Meaty hair.

Speaker B:

Big meaty hair. Delicious. I don't know why I wrote the quote. It pisses me off when someone talks bad about my awesome hair.

Speaker A:

I'm humble as shit.

Speaker B:

I agree. Josque, when you got hair, I mean, if you don't have to be humble.

Speaker C:

Yeah, he's humble in, like, every other regard. He can own his hair.

Speaker A:

Fair enough.

Speaker B:

I think it's gone. The show has definitely gone from disembodied hand to it's like, right now, not.

Speaker A:

So bizarre kind of lifey.

Speaker B:

Feels a little normal. Yeah. Why did I write this down? Koiji says, I have no idea what's going on, but something is definitely happening.

Speaker C:

Same here, buddy.

Speaker A:

Koi is the audience. He's a surrogate audience.

Speaker B:

Do they fight somebody or do they fight each other? Something happens.

Speaker A:

Judoro kind of tells off the girls, like the fangirls. Like, hey, get the hell away. Like, you can gush about his hair another time. And just by saying hair, it sets off Joskey, who's got, like, triggered. Yeah, he's got, like an Edward Elrock, like, short trigger. Like, it's just anything relevant, anything close to his hair, he goes off on. So he tries to take a bunch of Jodero. And then we see Jodero stands, which is platinum something.

Speaker C:

Star platinum.

Speaker A:

Star platinum. And apparently his apparently all the stands, not only being a crazy muscle man that comes out of your body, they also have unique powers. And Star platinums is time related. So he's able to pause time very briefly and knock down joske. Teach him whose books.

Speaker B:

Yeah. And his hat gets all weird.

Speaker C:

You're not hot shit.

Speaker A:

You ain't nothing.

Speaker B:

Let's see.

Speaker C:

I just throw a lot of quotes.

Speaker B:

I have one that says he can go from goofy to pissed off, which is true. His emotions are I guess he's only 16, so, I mean, what can you do? Yeah, his emotions are a little all over the place.

Speaker C:

He's hot headed.

Speaker B:

Yeah. So does something happen between that and us meeting Josque's mom?

Speaker C:

Yes, Jodero. Sort of once he reveals he's also a stand user, fills Josque in by saying that he's coming into town looking for strange occurrences that are happening.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

He shows a picture of a ghostly figure of a possible stand user that is hiding in the town doing crime, all that fun stuff.

Speaker B:

Nasty crime, boys.

Speaker A:

I just wrote down psychic photography.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

I'm guessing that's something else in the series because they just glance over it so fast. So I'm guessing that's for any newcomers. That's a weird sentence.

Speaker B:

It's evidence for now.

Speaker C:

Yeah. Because it's established that people cannot see other people's stands or interact with them unless they are another stand user.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker C:

So having a picture of this stand is kind of odd. I don't know if it's like a reverse of Empire thing of if you take a picture of it, you can see it.

Speaker B:

Maybe it is a special camera. Special eyes.

Speaker A:

Specialized. They all have very special eyes. They pierce into your soul.

Speaker B:

This has been a recurring theme. Special eyes.

Speaker A:

Special eyes. I was wondering about that with the stands because everyone seems pretty okay with giant people coming out of other giant people and no one really worried about it. And it's like, oh, you can't see them unless you have a stand as well.

Speaker B:

But that must look pretty wild too, though. Like just a fight going on and two guys are kind of just standing there staring at each other really hard.

Speaker A:

Yeah, because josie doesn't necessarily move when Crazy Diamond does something. So that's why the bully's face being rearranged was even weirder because it's like joski didn't even move to do it.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

There'S a lot of stuff going on with this.

Speaker A:

Also, Jesse has zipper nipples.

Speaker B:

Pardon? Oh, yeah. Part of his style.

Speaker A:

He's got the zippers over his nipple area.

Speaker B:

Easy access.

Speaker C:

I somehow missed that.

Speaker A:

I was wondering if it was like it didn't go down further. Like you can see where they start and stop, so it's not like it attaches to something else. I'm just like, okay, I guess we'll just keep going.

Speaker C:

Hey, the jumper cables have to get in there somehow.

Speaker B:

Yeah. I mean, don't kink shame him?

Speaker A:

He's just very young to be that kinky.

Speaker B:

It's true. Yeah. So we see a woman walking down the street and a guy comes up beside her and he's like, I'll take you anywhere you want. She says, you'll take me anywhere? And he says, yeah. And then she says, Then go straight to hell. And I immediately fell in love.

Speaker C:

Yeah. I wrote convertible lady is my favorite.

Speaker B:

Yeah. And then I wrote is she? His mom sick. And we also meet his grandpa. He rides up beside her and he's like, hello, daughter. And she's like, hey, dad. And it's just like all little family unit.

Speaker C:

This was a great little scene because once Convertible Guy gets his face mashed by jesse's mom yeah. Does she get a name in this? I don't think she's named in these episodes.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I don't think so. I think I would have written it.

Speaker A:

Down but it's just josie's mom.

Speaker C:

Her name is tomico.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker C:

I just have the wiki up there.

Speaker B:

I've never watched cowboy bebop, but she looks like the girl from cowboy bebop.

Speaker A:

I was thinking the same thing. faye valentine. She looks very similar to her.

Speaker B:

I was going to say jill valentine, but that's Resident Evil.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

So she's really cool.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I was saying it was great. She like smashes convertible creeps face on his window. And then a cop pulls up on his bike and convertible guys like, hey, that crazy lady just smashed my face in. And the cops like, yeah, that's my daughter. You shouldn't be giving her shit.

Speaker A:

She does that and she's in her right to do so.

Speaker B:

She's pretty fucking cool, huh?

Speaker C:

Great. I love this family so much. There's so much going on.

Speaker B:

Very good. I just wrote angelo did not write how we were introduced to him.

Speaker C:

Angelo across the street from this convertible scene, there's a rich couple sort of being snooty walking down the street who.

Speaker B:

Wants to go shopping.

Speaker C:

Yeah. A creepy dude runs into them and the rich boyfriend husband is like, hey, what are you doing? macho blah, blah, blah. Yeah, basically. And then the creepy dude who is revealed to be Angelo, a very despicable and evil criminal, kind of murders them.

Speaker A:

It's not clear. He does something terrible and then it cuts to his back story where we find out how truly terrible he is.

Speaker B:

Yes. So when he was twelve, he went to prison for rape and robbery. Yeah. He's starting at an early age.

Speaker A:

Yeah. Not good. I wrote down I like when they're giving more backstory. Angelo has an iq of 160 as he's just batting someone in the face with a baseball bat, just clearing someone's skull off. It's just like yeah.

Speaker B:

A lot of serial killers and cult leaders have really high iq.

Speaker A:

I guess it's just like, can't you find something more productive with your time than just destroying people's lives?

Speaker B:

He's just an evil man.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Sometimes men are evil.

Speaker C:

What?

Speaker B:

I know. Can you believe to which I wrote, no. Kill him. Get him out of here.

Speaker A:

Well, they tried to. Yeah, he got away.

Speaker B:

Yeah. So I think it goes back to the high school and it shows like a wide shot of the high school during which time I was like, oh, this color palette is something else.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I noticed the color palette changes when they activate their stands and I really like that. It's a neat way of saying like, oh, this world is different than the real world. Sort of.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

Especially with a distinguishing between the visible parts to other people and what's going on. Strictly in stand world.

Speaker B:

Yes. So like in this wide shot, like the grass is like pink and like the sky is yellowy green and all this weird stuff. And that's kind of when I realized what kind of makes you feel uncomfortable the whole time. Because even though the stuff we've seen so far isn't super weird yet, there is something about it that just makes you feel weird and grimy. And I think it's the color palette because you're just like everything. It kind of looks like, you know when there's a fire and everything kind of looks like yellow.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And you just feel like something's wrong.

Speaker C:

Yeah. There's like that weird haze, clear winter feeling.

Speaker B:

Yeah. So joske and koi chi are walking out of their high school. I wrote, koi chi is a small adventure boy. He seeks excitement. They see a crowd gathering at like a convenience store.

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker B:

And the boyfriend, husband, or whatever of the snooty couple has a woman hostage just outside of the store.

Speaker A:

As you do.

Speaker B:

Yeah. So josie takes it upon himself because he's big strong man to relieve the situation, alleviate the guy insults his hair.

Speaker A:

So he has to pay reprints, whatever that word is.

Speaker B:

So he made fun of his hair and that made Jose Cave real upset, as we've seen before. And the series of events strange. So he punches through the woman he's held in hostage as well as the dude. But because he's got a cool stand that can heal people, when he comes back out, the girl is perfectly fine. Because I was really worried. I was like, oh fuck.

Speaker C:

Wait a minute.

Speaker B:

Joske.

Speaker A:

Joskey is the villain.

Speaker B:

I know you're mad, but let's cool it for a second.

Speaker C:

Is the hot headedness going to be a problem? But no, he heals the woman and he takes the knife that was being held against her and puts it inside of the guy and heals it inside of him.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So that's where the stands are invisible to normal people. Really is unsettling and odd because it's just like all of a sudden this guy has a knife in them. Yeah. Okay.

Speaker B:

Yeah. To which I wrote, oh, yuck. Gross.

Speaker C:

Jose had a great line when the guy was like, oh, my knife's inside of me. He was like, yeah, they probably got great surgeons in prison. Glasses on.

Speaker A:

Yeah. I was trying to think, was it Miami Vice or no, Miami Vice. csi Miami.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So he punches him. Turns out he was possessed by a stand. And as he was slinking away into the sewers, I wrote, oh, he's like, pennywise. And he's like, I'll be back, Josge. And it's Angelo Stand.

Speaker C:

Yeah. He was like, I'm watching you, josue. And sort of gets a vendetta against him for stopping the hostage situation.

Speaker B:

And that's a pretty spooky stand because he's made of water so he can just be anywhere.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

It was really weird to me that that's how Angelo got revenge on this guy for bumping into him. It wasn't just like kill him and take his money or something simple like that. He set him up to be hostage situation.

Speaker C:

Framing him for a crime he technically committed.

Speaker A:

I feel like even if he wasn't possessed, he was capable of committing this crime. He comes off as a greasy scumbag, so I don't know. There was no sympathy lost here, at least for me.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And then we go into episode two.

Speaker C:

Where we start out. It looks like Angelo found where josue lives because he's sort of staking out the house by dressing up as a milk band so he can get up closer.

Speaker B:

Episode one. Also, I forgot how to write that down.

Speaker C:

Yeah. So he's sort of watching the house, he tries to deliver some milk, but Josuke's mom is ever observant and it's like, oh, this one has a damaged seal, so you got to give me a new one. He's like, oh, no, my plan failed because he put his stand named aqua necklace into the milk so he could possess the family. But that sneaky plan is not going to work this time.

Speaker B:

Also, he can possess people that's part of his stand. And he did not do so to spy on joe's kay. He was just him, but in a milkman uniform.

Speaker A:

And the milkman uniform is a hat and an apron on a tiny bicycle with a basket. And this guy is like, 7ft tall and, like, £300 of raw mussel. It's very alarming.

Speaker C:

My new milkman is hulk Hogan.

Speaker B:

Yes, brother.

Speaker C:

No questions here.

Speaker A:

Also, are there still milkman in 1999?

Speaker B:

I don't remember any of the town that they live in.

Speaker A:

The town is called morio and I just wrote down it's a me Mario.

Speaker C:

I'm sad now.

Speaker A:

Welcome to my life. Oh, sorry, another note I noticed. They got, like, hair fangs. I don't know how else to describe them, but they got little crinkly spikes on the back of all their hairs of Josque Jodero and Angelo, who are all stand users.

Speaker B:

That's true.

Speaker A:

Is this hair thing a sign of who's a stand user or not?

Speaker C:

I did not notice that, but I would not be surprised because there's another.

Speaker A:

Character we see later who also has that and the fan as well. So I was like, this is strange.

Speaker B:

Could be.

Speaker C:

I believe, at this point. This is where we get to the theme song.

Speaker B:

Not quite.

Speaker C:

Or was it after the thing?

Speaker A:

Terrible scene.

Speaker C:

Yeah. So josie's mom and Angelo sort of bond when he's described or disguised as the milkman over all those people who don't pick up after their dogs. So Angelo steps in some dog poop and finds a dog pooping in a nearby yard and goes up to them, is like, hey, why don't you pick up after your goddamn dog? And in doing so, eats the face of the dog.

Speaker B:

I don't like it.

Speaker C:

Yeah, this was bad. This was a bad time for everyone.

Speaker B:

This is the worst part of the whole show ever. I don't care that there are 36 episodes we haven't seen. This is the worst.

Speaker C:

We hit rock bottom already.

Speaker A:

At episode two, I was writing. Notes during the scene. I was like, man, I don't like this Aqua thing. It's kind of weird. Oh, fuck the dog.

Speaker B:

And I can take a lot like, a lot of things can't bother me.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

But it was at this moment that I was writing my notes with my head in my hand and I was just like and I shot up and reactively my hands bald into fists. I was like, no.

Speaker C:

No more my audio right now.

Speaker B:

When I yelled no.

Speaker A:

I've heard people talk about jojo's and apparently it's kind of a very unfortunate theme with this series that dogs get injured a lot which makes me surprise how popular it is.

Speaker C:

Yeah, it's not great.

Speaker B:

Spits the stuff in the guy's mouth.

Speaker C:

Spits the dog face into the guy's mouth.

Speaker A:

It's so upsetting.

Speaker B:

I like it.

Speaker A:

And then that's how Aqua gets into the guy. And instead of possessing him to do something, he just straight out kills him.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker C:

Again, driving home the fact that angelo is not a great guy no.

Speaker A:

Which is as horrible as it is it's kind of something I appreciated in a weird way because in a lot of animals, you hear all these terrible stories like, this is the villain. He does terrible things. And then throughout the whole series, he's just kind of like he's kind of a jerk and fights the main character. But that's it. He doesn't seem like a bad guy except for the history you told us he did. But angelo is like, here's this guy's terrible history. Also, he's a raving lunatic that just bites everything's face off. So it's like oh, okay. It really reinforced how bad of a person he was.

Speaker C:

Yeah. Really. Driving home that he's a monster.

Speaker B:

He's very bad.

Speaker C:

But yeah. At this point, after spitting a dog's face into his owner's mouth aqua necklace goes into a nearby sewer drain into the water supply, into Josquet's house infiltration Sneaky Sneaky. But now we get a sweet ass disco break of a theme song.

Speaker B:

Hell, yeah. This is a good theme song.

Speaker A:

That's a jarring juxtaposition between those two scenes.

Speaker C:

Yeah. If they gave me anything less of a palette cleanser, I would have been disappointed. But this was a disco bop, which is kind of weird because it's 1999. Yeah.

Speaker A:

That stuck out to me. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed the music and the style stuff. But I was kind of like, this is fairly tame for what I was expecting with jojo's because I hear so much crazy stuff about them. And I was expecting eighty s. Ninety s? Rock music. So I was going, huh? It it seems pretty animally. It seems it doesn't seem too unique to jojo's except for the it was good, but except for the constant changing color palette, I wasn't too surprised by it. I don't know, maybe I'm just jaded.

Speaker C:

No. Yeah. I was definitely down for this. As I previously mentioned, I tried to watch all of the anime intros and outros to get the full experience. And it's sort of a gauge if I can make it through or not. But yeah, I watched both the intros and outros of episode two and three because I was having fun with it.

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah. Every time.

Speaker B:

Yeah. I called this fly, which is not a word that's telling me my vocabulary.

Speaker A:

But it's very appropriate for 90, 99.

Speaker B:

It is so fly.

Speaker C:

It's so jodaro and Joskey are chatting on the phone, going over the events of yesterday and facing off a stand user. And Jodoro says to be very careful because Aqua Necklace can get into any water supply, and you have to be careful about what you eat or drink. And as this is going on, joskey's mom is making breakfast with lots of things to eat and drink.

Speaker A:

No from the tap.

Speaker B:

He also says that Aqua Necklace is a weak stand, which is interesting.

Speaker A:

I think he meant, like, physically.

Speaker B:

Physically, yes.

Speaker A:

Diamond is a crazy. Diamond and Star Platinum fought each other. Like, Aqua, I don't think could hold its own in a physical fight.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

Which is sort of why it goes into such sneaky, deceptive tactics to infiltrate.

Speaker A:

It's a coward.

Speaker B:

Me too.

Speaker C:

Safe. But in the breakfast preparation, aqua Necklace gets into Joskey's mom's coffee, and she accidentally drinks him no.

Speaker A:

And joski's very calm about this when telling jodor, he sees her drinking, and he's like, oh, she's possibly infected. Like, this might be a situation.

Speaker B:

Got to go.

Speaker A:

But that's the thing. He wasn't like, I got to run. And he throws the phone. He's like, oh, give me a second, and puts the phone down and just walks over to his mom. And it's like, oh, why is he so calm for his mom being possessed? Yeah.

Speaker C:

Because I don't want to say he's hot headed, because he's only hot headed when it comes to his hair, and his hair was not brought into question in this. I guess he is super chill, and.

Speaker B:

I guess maybe because he knows his stand is very powerful, he's probably just like, hold on, I got this.

Speaker C:

Yeah. And he uses that powerful thing to get it, because he did it, girl. He deceptively walks up behind his mom with a bottle, breaks it, and punches through her. So when he pulls it back out, he fixes the bottle and captures Aqua Necklace inside of it, which is super dope. And his mom doesn't notice at all, and she's still super calm about everything. It is great.

Speaker A:

I get that's what his power does, he's able to rearrange stuff back to the way it was or however he wants it, but it's still always jarring. Seeing him just punching through his mom's chest and then pulling it back, like, no big deal. It's like, no very much big deal. This is quite strange.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I guess that stand is pretty weak because it's that easy.

Speaker C:

Oh, no. You trap me with bottle. But I was also confused because when he fixes things, like with the bully's face, it mentions that things heal back in different forms, but when he punches through some people, everything's fine.

Speaker A:

I think it's when he wants it to be because there's a time where he swings at Jodero and he warps his hat. So it's kind of like if he's not thinking about it, they'll reform in whatever shape they want. And then if he's making a conscious effort, he can heal people and reform them the way they were before.

Speaker C:

Okay. Because that has been fairly inconsistent and I don't remember him explaining a difference between it. So I was sort of confused if that was a loophole or not.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I'm not sure if they explicitly say that or not, or if I was just taking that as an impression of like he's putting it yeah, he's making a very deliberate choice to do it and not to do it at times.

Speaker C:

Got you. That makes sense.

Speaker A:

Yeah, because I do like that he's like a main character with these powers, but he's well on his way with controlling it. He's done this for years already. They're not brand new to him. He's not having trouble controlling it. He's pretty secure with his strength and I enjoy that.

Speaker C:

So yeah. Shortly after, Josue lets Joe know that he has this bottle of the stand and he's like, keep your eye on it, don't lose it for a second. And then immediately the grandpa police officer comes in and he puts a gun up to josie's head. Why aren't you at school?

Speaker A:

I thought this was going to be like the oh, no, his grandfather is like super hardcore because his whole family seems pretty hardcore except for the grandfather. And I was like, oh, this is where we find out he's insane.

Speaker C:

Yeah, but he's like, why aren't you in school? Jessica is like, why do you have a gun?

Speaker A:

God damn. I like that he reacted like that. I'm glad it wasn't just a common occurrence.

Speaker C:

Yeah. Because he was like, ha, it's just a toy. It's like, what the hell? What?

Speaker B:

You're a cop?

Speaker A:

That could have been real.

Speaker C:

So yeah, that sort of threw me for a loop.

Speaker A:

Keep you on your toes.

Speaker C:

But taking advantage of I believe angelo has been staking out the entire family for so long. Oh yeah. It's revealed angelo. angelo was put into jail by Joe sky's grandfather. So there's mad beef there, there are.

Speaker A:

Layers, but I like that they pointed out when they show him sticking out, he goes, oh, so that's where I forget his grandfather's name. But he's like, so that's where you live. And then later in the scene he says, angela says, I know everything there is to know about you. The way you like your coffee and knowing that you like a whiskey after the end of your shift and all this stuff. So you know everything about him except for where he lives. I feel like that's a big oversight for someone with 160 iq.

Speaker C:

Yeah, that's true.

Speaker B:

I didn't think of that.

Speaker C:

Yeah, he lives in this town. He should know that the cop that he has a vengeance for and has for years and years, and he's like, oh, let me take revenge now. Now that it's convenient that I hate this entire family.

Speaker A:

I don't hate the one guy. I hate everyone. Now.

Speaker B:

One guy wasn't enough, but now I can destroy the whole family.

Speaker C:

Two birds, one stand, one aqua necklace. But yeah, aqua necklace, using this information, turns into a nice bottle of cognac, which is the grandpa's favorite drink when he gets off of work. So the grandpa immediately drinks this and.

Speaker B:

Hold on, they're watching the news, josie and his grandpa. And the newscast is like, oh, all of these people died from illness or accident. And I was like, and no other options?

Speaker A:

No, nothing else.

Speaker C:

No foul play.

Speaker B:

But then Grandpa was like.

Speaker A:

He'S up to something. And we get to see a good look of how finely chiseled his chin is. Jay leno.

Speaker B:

Yes, Grandpa.

Speaker A:

But I know his grandfather just got off of a long shift of, like, the night shift at a policeman, we can assume, but it's like 08:00 a.m. And he's reaching for that cognac.

Speaker B:

It's 05:00 somewhere.

Speaker A:

I don't know. Grandpa might be coping with something here.

Speaker C:

So, yeah, he drinks it and immediately dies. And Joe Sky is like, no, I took my eyes off the bottle for 1 second as Jodero arrives and he tries to use his stand to heal his grandpa, but he finds out that his stand cannot bring people back from the dead.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I wrote, oh, yeah. Oh, no. Aqua necklace is like, this is your fault, joske.

Speaker A:

You weren't watching me like a pendulum child.

Speaker C:

You didn't stop me from murdering your grandpa. That's your fault.

Speaker A:

I'm not taking responsibility. I'm a lunatic. This is on you.

Speaker B:

Yeah, but I think that's a good layer to a villain, too, is the ability to emotionally manipulate someone.

Speaker C:

Yeah. The simba. You're responsible for your father's death.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

That's where I've heard it before.

Speaker A:

There's a weird scar.

Speaker C:

Yeah, just the worst scar, but yeah. There's a funeral for the grandpa, and Josque's mom is off visiting family after the funeral, sort of to sort of get her away while angelo and aqua necklace are still out and about. And three days pass where they josue and Jodoro are in the family house sort of waiting out angelo's next attack. And it turns out that angelo wasn't waiting for an opening to break in. He was waiting for the next rainstorm.

Speaker A:

And if he was in California, he'd be shit out of luck.

Speaker C:

That'D be a long stake out.

Speaker B:

Yeah. And Joshua mentions to Joe skate, he's like, yeah, he'll probably just start by killing you and your mom. And it's just like, oh fuck. Okay.

Speaker A:

That's all.

Speaker C:

Okay. So once the rain starts pouring, there's infinite water all around. So they're trapped in the house. And once the water is making contact with the house, aqua Necklace can sneak in. And what he does yeah, this is real great. He breaks in once the rain is making contact with the house. And what he does once he gets inside is he starts turning on everything that makes steam. So he's turning on kettles, he's turning on humidifiers, he's turning on the showers and the hot water taps.

Speaker B:

He's everywhere.

Speaker C:

So the water vapor is infinite and can go anywhere and they can breathe him in.

Speaker A:

I like that. They pointed out that angelo at some point was wearing his stake out, snuck into the house and poked holes through the ceiling so it was easier for water to go up and down floors. And then also broke the faucets on stuff. So they can't just easily turn everything off.

Speaker B:

He does his work.

Speaker C:

Yeah, he's a sneaky dude.

Speaker A:

I didn't know.

Speaker B:

I noticed this is dark, but he was just caught. This is a lot.

Speaker A:

So a man bite a dog's face off, how dark it again.

Speaker B:

But this is a real thing. The East Area rapist. He was in sacramento. This was a long, long time ago. And they literally just caught him.

Speaker A:

He was the Golden State killer.

Speaker B:

Golden State killer. That's the one. He was a construction worker. So he would go into people's houses and stake out their house and then set stuff up for his plans, his victims. So I wonder if maybe they saw that and were like, oh, he plans. I don't know.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I would not be surprised if that was an inspiration, especially since there's so much rape in his backstory.

Speaker B:

Back to the fun fight scene.

Speaker A:

Back to the wet house.

Speaker C:

Yeah, back to wet world, water world, moist manner. I think we found an episode. Tight.

Speaker A:

No. Can we just call it child murder and be a better we'll see.

Speaker C:

So yeah, now that Aqua Necklace is loose in this house, they are trying to figure out how to escape because there's water, water everywhere and not a drop to drink. So they decide to use crazy diamond to break through a wall that Aqua Necklace could not follow through. But oh no, he was anticipating that because Aqua Necklace set up or angelo set up a humidifier on the other side of this wall. So they break into a trap and immediately Josque inhales aqua Necklace takes a boom and seemingly he's going to take over his body. No josuke, but we see. A dastardly plan of joskey was he cut up pieces of a rubber glove, swallowed it. So once Aqua Necklace went into his body, he used his stand to seal up the rubber glove and capture him. haha.

Speaker B:

To which I say weird. So genius. Seems genius. I want to say it's genius, but it was really just so dumb that it worked.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

I like that when he coughs up the glove, like, once it's sealed and Aqua necklace is in there, he looks at Joe, he's like, sorry if you had to like, sorry you had to see that gross thing of me just vomiting up a rubber glove. I was like, oh, I'm glad he knows this is weird and gross.

Speaker C:

Yeah, he acknowledges it, which is nice.

Speaker A:

He's very aware.

Speaker C:

But now that Aqua necklace is captured, they set him free, which leads him back to where angelo was hiding just up in the tree in the front yard. Very sneaky. So when they find where angelo is and they confront him, now that they have best at him, and angelo is like, you can't do anything to me. It's beyond the law.

Speaker A:

You're good guys.

Speaker C:

Yeah. You have to be law abiding citizens. I already got convicted and went to jail, so there's nothing you can do to me.

Speaker B:

It's that thing of like, oh, if we kill them, we're just as bad as they are. And it's like, I don't know. You raped and killed 214 year old girls.

Speaker A:

He raped and killed a lot of people. So it's like, yeah, Batman can look the other way this time. Maybe we can kill him.

Speaker C:

So, yeah. joske punches him into a rock and breaks up the rock and refuses it so that he is trapped forever inside this rock.

Speaker B:

Eternity garbage, man.

Speaker C:

And then the narrator comes in. Yeah. This rock is a local attraction called angelo's rock. It becomes a place for romantic rendezvous.

Speaker A:

And I was so confused by this. I'm like, how is it romantic when a dude just screaming at you from a raw cliff? So weird.

Speaker B:

I also wrote another word that is not regularly in my vocabulary. I called this raw. Raw. That's so raw. He's stuck forever in the city his grandpa protected.

Speaker A:

It's Monday night.

Speaker B:

Raw. Hell, yeah.

Speaker A:

Just brutal.

Speaker C:

But yeah, that a fitting end to have him trapped forever in this rock.

Speaker B:

Yay.

Speaker C:

I guess the teams are making out on I don't know, it's just in, like, a yard in a suburb. I don't know how it's a romantic spot.

Speaker A:

The next episode, he actually reconfigures it again. Like, not to show up too far ahead, he reconfigures it again.

Speaker B:

Well, it happens in the beginning. So we're there. We're on episode three now.

Speaker A:

Yeah, episode three. So we see angelo's eyes still in the rock, but we don't see any other parts of them, and it kind of looks like a face. So when it's like this rock, I'm like, oh, I get how it could be a landmark now, as opposed to a human man's face sticking out of it, screaming for eternity. So I could understand the new reconfiguring of it more as a landmark than.

Speaker C:

The old one, but even koichi is like, hey, what's up with this weird ass rock?

Speaker A:

I'll get to it, but oh, the ending. This is when we see the ending for the first time. And this is what I was expecting for jojo's ending intro. Like, this is the style and music I was expecting for jojo's because it's savage Garden, which is very appropriate for 1999, I suppose.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

But I very much enjoyed the ending much more than the intro. Intro is still fine, but the ending got me and hooked me. So, yeah, next episode, they're still talking to angelo and kind of interrogating them. Well, not even because he's just giving away this information. And I was like, wow, for a guy who's so smart, supposedly he's real dumb and just spilling all of his.

Speaker B:

Secrets, what has he got to lose? He's in Iraq, I suppose.

Speaker A:

But he's just, like, taunting him, like, ha ha. There's another mastermind behind all this. And you'll never catch it. It's like why? You don't have to tell him. Like you said, he's got nothing to lose, but he also has nothing to gain.

Speaker B:

That's true.

Speaker A:

Why is he telling him this? So he tells him about a man in a school uniform, which I think is weird because all of these men, even Joe Rose, in a school uniform or a variation of it. And he's 28 at this point, I think. And it's weird to hear a man in a school uniform.

Speaker B:

It's a kink. Don't King shame them.

Speaker A:

I don't know. A kink becomes weird when it's in public. And then some kinks only exist if they're in public, so I don't know.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

But yeah, so he tells him about this guy who shoots him in the throat when he was in prison, appeared out of nowhere, shot him in the throat with an arrow in his mouth. And he's like, hey, you survive. You get this cool new stand. Thanks, dio. And then disappeared. And it's just like what? What? And dio isn't alluding to a previous season where I guess he was the long running villain to the Joe Star family.

Speaker B:

Dio, dio. dio.

Speaker A:

It's mia the whole time. And so that's got Joe dero's attention because he's like, oh, shit. dio is still involved with something. I thought we beat him last a few years back or however long with this long running series and with it being in, like, necessary real time. But they keep track of the dates because it goes across generations. So it's weird how pinpoint they are with all the date information. But it's a very cool feature because.

Speaker C:

This right now is about over 100 years past the start of the series, which is kind of bonkers.

Speaker A:

Yeah, because I think the original Joe Star was in England, like 100 years ago. So it's interesting to see it's not only in England. There was one season where they're in Egypt and then now they're in Japan. It doesn't all take place in Japan. It's a very global anime and something I wrote down. It's like the style and the writing itself is very Japanese, but it's a very worldly anime within the world, within the show. I very much appreciate that. It's very well done.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So the whole time angelo is spilling his guts about this secret benefactor who gave him his stances artificially, in a weird way, he's actually controlling Aqua necklace to strangle this kid behind them and force the glove. He's still in the glove, but it forces them down his throat and starts shooting the kid, saying like, if you don't let me out, I'll kill this kid. To which Josie just reconfigures them further into a rock monster.

Speaker B:

He wasn't angry enough before that's, right?

Speaker A:

Yeah, he wasn't angry enough. And then he mentions his hair, which triggers him again, and then he destroys the entire rock and then reconfigures that again to be what we see it as, like a big face monster. And I'm guessing that kills angelo because Aqua necklace stops strangling the kid.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

IP garbage man joski is a murderer now.

Speaker C:

Join the club. I'm sure it's not going to be your last.

Speaker A:

Seems like everyone else is already in there, so welcome aboard.

Speaker B:

We've got time.

Speaker A:

So yeah, that's kind of the end of angelo. It kind of winds down from there. And this is Step, so that sets up a new arc or storyline. So it's kind of tame. I like when they're walking back from school, it's Jesse and koichi. They walk by the rock and joski just goes, yo, angelo. I was like, oh, fucking just taunting your big rival because he's forever trapped alive in that rock and just like fucking ice cold.

Speaker B:

But then kuiji does the same. It's cute. He's like, what? And then Jose is like, oh, nothing. And then he's like, okay. Hi, angelo.

Speaker A:

Yeah, he just like, I guess this is the thing. The cool kid does it, so I'll do it too. She's like, I don't know if it's enough for angelo, like, punishment wise, but it's definitely very sweet. It's a good punishment. So yeah, there's a big old ghost house, abandoned house across from jessica's house, and koiki thinks he sees a silhouette in there the way all good ghost stories start. And joski is like, no, this is across my house. I wouldn't notice if someone moved in. It's probably just the realtor kicking out homeless people. And kuichi sticks his head into the gate to get a better look. And when he does that, he notices someone standing right behind the gate. And at that moment, that person kicks on the gate, trapping Kuichi's head in there and just choking them out.

Speaker B:

Yeah. Well, before this, though, jotaro is talking about connections that may have occurred between this bow and arrow situation and D. Oh, that's right. And I think that's really interesting because, like, this show, like, while it is very actiony, it's also kind of like a mystery. And if this really is how it is, like, setting up, like having these little mini arcs of just them trying to beat these people with stands. It feels very like scooby doo esque waskily kids. Yeah. I just think that's really interesting because now it's jotoro trying to find a connection between this bow and arrow and how maybe dio got his stand. Because he also got a stand out of nowhere.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

So it's trying to find like, the dio was thought to be the big bad, but there's this strange figure that's giving people powers that's going even beyond dio. So there's like an even bigger bad hiding in the sidelines even beyond dio.

Speaker A:

Super saiyan dio.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So it just seems like all of jojo's bizarre venture is just about how one family is just trying to live their life and one asshole named dio is ruining it.

Speaker C:

Pretty much.

Speaker A:

Yeah. So yeah. kuw is being choked out by this gate and I guess took a big breath of air beforehand because it happens for a while. Yeah.

Speaker C:

Most of this episode, he's being strangled by the gate. So it's like 20 minutes.

Speaker A:

It's odd, but right when he gets caught in the gate, it hard cuts to Jodoro going back to josie's house. And we actually see Jodoro meet josie's mom for the first time.

Speaker B:

And she thinks he's Joseph.

Speaker A:

As soon as she sees him, she just throws herself at him all over him, saying, like, I knew you'd come back. I've always loved you, even though you're 50 years older than me.

Speaker B:

Yeah. I also said, though, I was like, I would do the same if Joe said Joe Star came to my door, I'd be like, I missed you. I love you.

Speaker C:

This was also a great dub moment of just her saying love, love, love, love, love chest.

Speaker A:

Which was great, very as, ridiculous, and over the top of the show is it's very silly for most of it. I could understand her attraction to Joseph because he's just such a finely sculpted being.

Speaker C:

He's such a hearty, but, like, beautiful boy.

Speaker A:

He's also been gone pretty beautiful man. He's also been gone out of her life for like roughly 20 years. Like, I'd be pretty pissed. I was very surprised, I guess. I do not know how it is like to raise an illegitimate child for 16 years. I will confess to that. So, yeah, this is where judor talks to her and says like, no, I'm joseph's grandson. We're actually all related. That's why your son I've been talking to her son and tries to explain to her, like, trying to get more information about this bow and arrow and just seeing anywhere he can because it's a big concern now that it's just handing out stance left and right. And then we come back to joske with kuiji being murdered, with the struggling gate and all that. And we get what's his name? okuya.

Speaker B:

Okuyasu.

Speaker A:

Oku. yasu. I called him patchwork. Just Patch Adams.

Speaker B:

I called him Money Boy.

Speaker A:

Money boy.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Dow. Dow bill because he's got just big, like, stitches, I guess it's not very clear. But he's got just two lines going across his entire face. And it's weird.

Speaker B:

Yeah. He also wears many dollar signs.

Speaker A:

He's got a very similar uniform to Josue. And it's just filled with yen and dollar signs because he's just obsessed with money. I guess they don't really explain it.

Speaker B:

Maybe he's showing how rich he is.

Speaker A:

But is he, though? Because he's squatting in an abandoned house.

Speaker B:

With his they bought it.

Speaker A:

They bought it.

Speaker C:

I think so, yeah, because they're like, this is our new house. And I don't know if it was translating something on his jacket, but it said billions somewhere on his clothing. So I guess they're saying that they're rich kids.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

I assumed it was just all illegal funds. Because we find out his Bro, we never get a clear look, but his bro is the man in the school uniform with the ponytail who gave angelo his powers. So he's able to somehow sneak into prison and give him his powers and sneak out. And when his Bro tells him to stop messing around, he shoots kuichi in the neck with the arrow. He ain't here to play. He's going all out.

Speaker B:

But if kuiji lives through it, he gets a stand.

Speaker A:

And like, kuwaiti is a soft little boy, but any normal human would have died 15 minutes ago into this episode.

Speaker B:

He's also in the theme song, so I don't think he can die.

Speaker A:

He's safe. Unless this is like Game of Thrones. And it's just like, here's the roster of who we're going to kill one by one. But yeah. So he's been strangled for like a good ten minutes while they monologue at each other. And then he gets just narrow in the neck for the rest of the episode.

Speaker C:

He's really got the low end of this fight.

Speaker A:

I would stop hanging out with Jesse after this without any concerns. By the end of the episode. It still implied he's hanging on, but yes. And once he gets the Aaron in the neck, this is when oku, yasa and Josie start fighting. And we find out that Okuyasa also have a stand, which was pretty clear in the opening of the episode because he's in the intro. That's something that always bothers me is when the intro spoils stuff. I know they have to kind of capture like the whole season, but it also gives away a lot, which is.

Speaker C:

Unfortunate and better for rewatch than for initial watch.

Speaker A:

Yeah. And Okassa stand is very similar to Crazy diamonds, except his head is slightly different. And yet his hand has those Nike pump up kicks where you pump up and the shoe gets tightened because he's just got weird stand tumors on his hand. Like just weird bubbles.

Speaker B:

Yeah. And it turns out the sound that it makes when he hits things, it sounds like you. Know, in vines or just like funny videos when the audio gets really loud and distorted. That's what it sounds like. It's very pleasant to listen to any time he hits anything. I'm just like it just cracks me up.

Speaker A:

Oh, I forgot I wrote down for okeyasa. I forgot his name in the episode. So I just wrote down Joe Star mcduck because he remembered mcduck with his money.

Speaker B:

I love it.

Speaker A:

So, yeah, apparently no one has inner dialogue in this world. Like, everyone just immediately starts spouting whatever comes into their head without a second thought. Because the whole time joski's talking, he could have been saving kuiji but just let them go. So, yeah, we find out the Hand, his power is able to just pull stuff towards him. Kind of like it's a weird additional step, but it's kind of telekinesis.

Speaker C:

Yeah, it like cuts space out of existence and sort of immediately closes the gap.

Speaker B:

Yeah. And he's just like I don't even really know where it goes, but how have I know?

Speaker C:

Yeah, he's kind of an idiot. He's like a big old conversation, but.

Speaker A:

I'm not sure I forget it. If was implied that he got his stand from his brother with the bow and arrow or if he naturally had it.

Speaker B:

I do not know.

Speaker C:

Me either.

Speaker B:

Maybe it's not been revealed yet.

Speaker A:

Yeah, because it seems like his brother was aware of the Hand is what the stan's name is, and feared it. So it seems like he was aware of it before his brother had it. But yeah. So joski tricks him into absorbing the space in between him and josie, and then joski ducks and flower Potsko flying past him and hit him in the face. And this is when josie runs in to get kuichi and finds out he was dragged into the abandoned house by the ponytail man in the school uniform and who's trying to see if koichi lives, if he'll get a stand or not. And that's pretty much it. Oh, there was one line with Jodoro talking to josie's mom where he says, like, oh, I'm not Joseph Jostar. He's an old man now. And I just wrote down he was an old man then. He was 62 when they met. Like, he's always been old. And that just like, really calm me off guard. And I was like, if you're over 60 year old, I hate to break it to you.

Speaker C:

Yeah, especially this fresh faced man coming up. And you're like, oh, a decade has passed. He must be even younger and handsomer.

Speaker B:

Did you moisturize?

Speaker A:

You look great.

Speaker B:

Hung me.

Speaker C:

That hot. Egypt desert sun did wonders for your skin.

Speaker A:

It's so forgiving. I don't know. With stands, it's entirely possible he'd come back younger. I don't know. Maybe benjamin Button is a stand user.

Speaker C:

I would not be surprised. Finally, the crossover.

Speaker A:

We all wanted Benjamin Button and Joe just bizarre adventure. So yeah, it kind of leaves us on a cliffhanger for the next episode, which we did not watch.

Speaker C:

Still a mystery.

Speaker A:

And then we get that sweet, sweet savage garden outro.

Speaker C:

So, yeah, since this is a new show for everyone, we can all sort of go through our ending questions of what did you all think of this?

Speaker A:

Are we there yet?

Speaker B:

I am afraid to watch more. There are still 36 episodes and it can get so much worse than a man biting a dog's face off. But I want to know what happens because I don't know. There is a big bad. I know there's a big bad in the season and we have not met them yet, so I want to know who the big bad is. So I think I would keep watching this.

Speaker C:

Do you think you would go back and watch the previous stuff to fill in up to this point? Since this is sort of a weird yes, it is kind of a new series, but it has technically three seasons ahead of it.

Speaker B:

I think I'd rather just get information myself rather than have to watch a bunch of episodes leading up to this one because this season is 39 episodes, which is a lot for me. I usually like to stick to anime that are like 26 episodes or less, so I think I'd rather just look it up. But also, I feel like the show does a pretty good job of telling us what's happened before. Probably not, but I would watch this.

Speaker A:

Oh, God. I'm just looking at the wikipedia and it's just so much the manga's existence since 87.

Speaker B:

Oh, my God.

Speaker A:

Yeah. And then there's 122 volumes, which is like, oh, boy. Five chapters. Five to seven chapters per volume. So that's like 700 plus chapters. That's a lot.

Speaker B:

It is a lot, yeah.

Speaker C:

And I have previously watched the first, like five or six episodes of the original or the first season, and it was nowhere near as weird and odd as this, which is sort of why yeah, that's a good word for it. I'm trying to not say it 8 million times this episode.

Speaker B:

8 million times this episode.

Speaker C:

Bizarre. Bizarre. It starts out fairly normal and it just becomes a rivalry between the original jojo and dio. And I wanted to see where it gets to this craziness because it starts out as a normal, ha ha, we are enemies, let's fight anime. And I want to see it. But there is so much, and so much of it seems very disturbing. So I don't know if I would continue with this.

Speaker A:

I think one of the things dio does to piss off the original jojo is kill his dog. So the dog violence is prominent in the series.

Speaker C:

No, yes, I did watch those episodes. And yes, that definitely does happen.

Speaker B:

Why, though?

Speaker C:

I get that that's like an immediately identifying as this guy's bad when they kill a dog, but that's true. Do you have to do it every 2 seconds.

Speaker A:

It's a bit much. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it much more. Well, no, I always assumed I'd enjoy this because it can't be this long running. it'd be terrible. Unless you're bleach.

Speaker B:

Wow.

Speaker A:

If we want to do a bleach episode, I'll have a lot to say. We'll get so I was expecting it's super crazy and over the top and a lot of good eighty s. Ninety s music, which is my prime, so I wasn't surprised I enjoyed it. But I'm one of those nerds who kind of have to know everything about a series when I get into it. So supernatural and buffy and all those long running shows I can't get into because I have the start from square one and there's just way too much. So for me, I enjoyed the show, but I don't think I'll keep up with it just because it'll always bug me not knowing everything about stuff. Like when they say, like, psychic photography and they talk about this old witch with the bow and arrow, I'm like, who is that? What's going on? And I would the nerd in me crepes know everything and understand it all.

Speaker C:

And you would drive yourself insane.

Speaker A:

It's just too much for me at this point.

Speaker B:

So what you guys are saying is that you're cowards.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker C:

We have a lot of time on our hands, just not that much.

Speaker A:

So with naruto and bleach in one piece, the big three of shonen, I kept up with all of those. And I read I watched most of the anime for those and then I've kept up with all the mango for those. But that's over the course of like, 14 years. That's been like, half of my life I've been following those three, and then two of those are ended now, so it's easier to keep track of. Like, for jojo's, I would have had to have been interested years ago. And I mean, I guess you can make the case I could be interested now and start and catch up when I'm 38, but I don't know. That's a lot. So I enjoy it, but I don't think I'll be keeping up with the show.

Speaker C:

Yeah, because I would also want to see the dynamic shifts because I remember from working on season two that Jodero was the whiny teen and was the hot headed one and sort of seeing him become the mentor figure. I want to get the full story of his arc as well. And before that, there's going to be the person who worked with Joseph. So there's that arc since he was Jodaro's mentor. It's sort of a chain of this narrative leads into this narrative, leads into this narrative that it's hard for me to jump in the middle, too.

Speaker B:

Yeah, see, I don't have a problem with that.

Speaker C:

You're down for whatever.

Speaker A:

Yeah, it's just a dog.

Speaker B:

I kind of just take what's given to me so it doesn't bother me if I'm missing information. I'm kind of just like, all right. And then if I want to know what they're talking about, I'll look it up or something.

Speaker C:

You are much more adaptable.

Speaker B:

I know. Well, because I know some of the characters from before, and, like, paul's told me a lot about the show, I feel like I can kind of follow it. Like, I don't need absolutely every detail to understand what's happening. I'm just kind of like, okay, if that's what's happening in your cannon, sure. I'll take it.

Speaker A:

I would watch it. It's like a studio ghibli movie. You just get thrown in the middle of it. It's like, all right, I guess we're going with this.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

I can do that with some stuff, but especially, like, long running stuff. I don't know. Something about me just craves understanding everything and knowing there's callbacks or secrets that I won't get or be able to appreciate as much. Won't stop scratching in the back of my head. Yeah.

Speaker C:

You're a completionist weirdly.

Speaker A:

Yes. With series and stories and narratives, but not with anything else in my life or video game.

Speaker B:

Well, that was a lot.

Speaker C:

Yeah. So before we wrap things up, we can look forward to something new in the future. dana, much more condensed. Yes. So, dana, what are we looking at for next week's episode?

Speaker B:

Next week we're going to watch my Love Story, or Ore monogatari, if you are so inclined to call it that. Something much more palatable.

Speaker C:

Yeah, we need something nice and gentle.

Speaker B:

And that's absolutely what my love story is.

Speaker C:

Perfect. Wonderful.

Speaker A:

This has been on my list of things to watch eventually, so I'm glad we're getting around to it.

Speaker B:

Yay.

Speaker C:

And we will be watching the first three episodes, correct?

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker C:

All right. So yeah. Thank you for listening to Rweeb there yet. If you like the show, please like us on Twitter and Instagram at. Are we there yet? We need to thank camille ruley for our artwork and Louis zong for the theme music stories. You can find Louismusic at Louisong bandcamp.com. And please join us next week as we learn to live with anime.

Speaker B:

Bye.

Speaker A:

See you.

Episode Notes

Content Warining: Sexual Violence & Assault

This week we hold our dog's close and keep them safe from monsters as we watch Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: Diamond is Unbreakable!

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