AWTY 216 - DEFCON 69 (My Dress Up Darling)
Transcript
Does gender matter? No, it doesn't. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker B:Hello and welcome. Welcome to are we there yet? In exploration and education and anime. I'm your anime idiot, patrick dugan.
Speaker A:I'm an anime expert. dee hollander gonzalez.
Speaker C:And I'm brenda mccullough. Your anime heidi klum in a worm costume.
Speaker A:Oh, good.
Speaker C:Worm.
Speaker B:Worm, worm, worm, worm.
Speaker A:Worm. That was a good one. I appreciate we were talking about this when it happened. I appreciate that she uses her riches for silliness sometimes.
Speaker C:I know nearly nothing about her beyond the absurd costumes. And she has all my respect.
Speaker A:Yeah, she helps the project to make.
Speaker B:It in this town.
Speaker C:Specifically, my respect. Me, a major influencer, a big player in the Hollywood scene.
Speaker A:Oh, absolutely. Everyone to impress Brendan.
Speaker C:I'm a cis, straight white male. Everyone's eyeing for my attention.
Speaker A:Everyone clamoring.
Speaker C:Brendan, we won't get it.
Speaker B:You're, like, fifth in line to be president of Disney.
Speaker A:I listen, if Brendan was the president of Disney, everything would be great because I would be the one in his ear telling him what to do. I just don't want the pressure.
Speaker C:Nor would they give it to me because I'm not a sister puppet.
Speaker B:Bastard pulls the strings.
Speaker C:I don't know these parks. You get the parks.
Speaker B:Anyway, what are we watching today?
Speaker A:Well, I suppose the reason Brandon mentioned the worm costume is because we're watching a show about cosplay.
Speaker C:Oh, interesting. What a weird question.
Speaker A:We're watching my dress up, darling. Yeah, I forget where I heard about this, but it has an 8.3 on my anime list, which, as we've discussed, is a pretty high rating for that website.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:The week we watched comey Can't Communicate, I was reminded it existed because it was on the list with comey Can't Communicate for, like, good slice of life anime. So yeah. Have either of you heard of this one?
Speaker B:I do not. But I just like that peak behind the curtain that you say, this is coming from a good anime list. So I know it's not a Brendan pick and I can trust it.
Speaker A:You know, I do my research. I don't just pick things willy nilly. I'm too nervous to do that.
Speaker B:It's not, like, historically damaging to the psyche, but it's like something people want to recommend to you.
Speaker C:Yeah, listen, we have all picked a show where we had to do a last minute audible go. nope, can't do that one. Do we're swapping it's this one out so we all don't do research?
Speaker A:Sometimes I feel like it's a recent thing where I have to be, but even sometimes when we watched Dance Dance Dancer, I was like, there's no fucking, like, telling what can happen. Like, this seems like it could be innocent enough, but we could get stars aligned. We could get Opera Girl.
Speaker C:I mean, I love stars aligned. It was insane.
Speaker A:You love it for the reason I love Future Diary. True shit's bonkers.
Speaker C:Yeah. Future diary.
Speaker B:I feel like we're getting sorry. It's pretty safe. We don't know a lot about this.
Speaker C:I know it got popular. I know about it. But considering my track record last episode, I'm going to refrain from trying to be horny on Maine this week. So see how we do.
Speaker A:Oh, jeez.
Speaker B:Fingers crossed. We're going to start badening down the hatches. Just preparing, just in case. We're at def con. Three for Brendan Horny. naines. We're watching the first three episodes.
Speaker A:Let's go. I've got my tinfoil hat on. It protects me from brendan's horniness. fuck.
Speaker C:Shit. fuck. Damn it. The horn show.
Speaker A:Oh, shit. gosh.
Speaker C:Shit.
Speaker A:The real horn.
Speaker C:Shock. God, no. I promised before I wrote a check. There's no there's no sentence. There's no combinations of words in that sentence that are applicable to my situation that are good to hear audibly. So I'm going to stop there.
Speaker B:I wrote a check. Just bank. Bank. I could not get.
Speaker A:Oh, wow.
Speaker C:There's nothing good that could come out of that, man.
Speaker A:Well, let's talk about this, because it's not what I was expecting. But did I enjoy it? You bet you're bippy. Here we go.
Speaker B:Yeah, after all this. Hey, not a bad show, but is.
Speaker A:It a little bit icky? Yeah, but did I enjoy it? Yeah. So episode one, we open on this little boy who's mesmerized by some beautiful dolls. He's with his grandpa, and he tells him that they're called hina Dolls and that his grandpa made them with some of his friends. The boy says that he likes them. No, he loves them. They're beautiful. And his grandpa says that with practice, he can make them too. Then like in this flashback, there's this little girl who yells at him and says that dolls are for girls. Does the classic you're a freak, which was uncalled for, honestly.
Speaker C:Also, real quick, I thought this was his sister. We find out he's a single child. Who is this girl?
Speaker A:I don't know. I mean, I'm sure in the rest of the series you find out, but.
Speaker C:I guess probably, yeah, because at this.
Speaker B:Point, it's like sister wait. Revised into my head. Childhood friend. Wait, what? He says he has no friends. I don't know.
Speaker A:Who is she?
Speaker C:She just broke into the show.
Speaker B:Just a stranger being like, hey, these are my dolls. I'm going to buy them all boys can't have them.
Speaker A:She also tells him that she doesn't want to play with him anymore. So then years go by, he wakes up, he's a teen. He says good morning to a doll, saying she's as beautiful as ever. So maybe she was right. Maybe he is a freak.
Speaker C:It's not because he wants to play with the dolls, but he wants to play with them too much. There's a line.
Speaker B:It's that they speak to him, not talk.
Speaker A:Then we get the opening, which is pretty cute. It's just like them. It's him and the main girl, like hanging out and doing shit together. And it's sweet. I like it. It seems like he lives in a pretty old house, like in the same place as the doll workshop store. We see doll parts everywhere. His name is wakana. He lives with his grandpa. Glad his grandpa's still alive. We're his parents. Who knows?
Speaker C:You see them praying at a shrine with looks like a photo of his grandma and his parents. So check.
Speaker A:All right. Rip. His grandpa asks him if he got enough sleep. It sounded like he was up late. And wakana says he just got in the zone. But none of his dolls are as perfect as Grandpa's. And Grandpa reminds him that he's been doing this for 48 years.
Speaker C:You've been doing it for five. There's a gap.
Speaker A:Practice makes perfect.
Speaker B:You are literally a child. I am a professional.
Speaker A:They eat breakfast and talk doll making, and Grandpa says that the clothes wakana makes are great, but he knows he's got to improve on a lot. And Grandpa asks if he's made friends at school. Based on the reaction, it seems like he hasn't. He spends all his free time making dolls, so he hasn't made many friends over the years. Clearly scarred by that little girl we saw in the flashback. wakana does tell that tells his grandpa that he has friends and they're just busy with their clubs, so that's why you never see them.
Speaker B:There's an action figure club so they can't come over.
Speaker A:It was at this point I wrote in my notes, I really like the voice actors in this. I feel like they're very natural and casual sounding, which is great for high schoolers.
Speaker C:I watched the first episode subbed and the rest dubbed, and what kind of dubbed voice caught me by surprise because I wasn't expecting how deep and how course it was, but it just took me a second to get used to from the subject. But it was good. It just was unexpected.
Speaker A:Yeah, the acting is good.
Speaker C:Yeah, acting is very good.
Speaker A:So, yeah. Grandpa believes him that he has friends. He heads to school. A guy bumps into him playfully, but he thought wakana was someone else, and he just runs away. So he really doesn't have friends.
Speaker C:God, that was a fucking realist moment. I felt that moment.
Speaker A:Yeah. The guy being like, I'm so sorry.
Speaker C:I've been on both sides of that. It's never good.
Speaker A:Me too. I remember distinctly when I was very young, I thought a girl I saw the back of a girl and I thought it was somebody I was good friends with. And I did like a guess who. Like, I put my hands over her eyes, she turned around and it was not my friend. Sorry.
Speaker C:Girl, you'll never guess.
Speaker A:Girl, you'll never know.
Speaker B:Please keep your hands here so I can run away and you won't look at it. I once got stuck in the middle of both. Somehow. I was walking home through my parking garage in an old building. And I just hear someone outside yell, Patrick. And there's like one other guy in the parking garage. And we're both like, someone's calling. We both went over and opened the door. And I didn't recognize this person because we both were Patrick. We just happened to be two Patrick standing next to each other. unrelated, at the exact moment someone yelled out, Patrick. And we were like, wait, are they my friend or yours? I'm not involved in the situation, but I did a lot of the legwork. I don't know.
Speaker C:I already walked over here.
Speaker A:What a coincidence.
Speaker C:Timing.
Speaker A:So wakana is lamenting that he can't find anything in common with anybody. His whole life is dolls and no one else understands. And he's like, listening to everyone else's conversations. They're talking about several things, and he wishes that he had other interests, but he just doesn't, and that people would laugh at him if they knew what he did. And he thinks maybe it would be better if he wasn't there at all. And I was like, that's sad. But also, get a grip, boy.
Speaker C:Bit dramatic.
Speaker A:They all hated me. Just then, a blonde girl falls onto his desk and hits her head. Her name is maureen.
Speaker C:I thought she was going out the window. I thought she was like, she had to catch her. I thought she was going to fucking die.
Speaker B:Yeah, the angle of descent was very funny to me because she would have been, like, thrown at the desk by the hulk. There's no way she tripped. Her feet were at shoulder level.
Speaker A:They never really explain how this happened. It's just a Meat Cute kind of thing. So we're just left guessing.
Speaker C:She threw her body in and ragged all at him?
Speaker B:Yeah, but it was like a meet moment where they hold it in the air. It's like up. She's going to fall in his lap. And then just a gnarly, like she hits her head on the corner of the desk.
Speaker A:Is she okay? So after this, her friends follow in after her and she says she's fine. She stands up and asks him if he's okay. And she knows his name, his last name, which is gojo. And he says he's fine. And she notices that he has a mark on his arm. And she like, thinks it's a bruise and says it looks serious. She, like, touches his arm and he shakes her up. And he's like, I'm fine. And she leaves with her friends, but it's just like an ink stain on his arm from painting. He watches her walk away, looks at her booty, which was the first thing that I was like, oh, no, it's a horny show.
Speaker C:The first sign.
Speaker A:Yeah, but so she's popular. He thinks, like, oh, she's always the center of attention. She knows how to get along with everybody. It's crazy that she talked to me. She's standing at the front of her class talking with her friends, and one of them talks about how she had fun yesterday with maureen. But maureen's like, I don't want to talk about that here. But the friend explains that she went with maureen to a hair modeling gig. And she talks about this creepy guy who called maureen a nerd after noticing an anime charm on her bag. And maureen told him off. And another one of her friends asks why she wouldn't give him a chance if he was hot. And she gets mad saying that it doesn't matter if he's hot. He was a jerk. And this is verbatim from the English dub, making fun of the things people like is not hot. And I was like, fuck, yeah. I love this girl.
Speaker B:There were some great sound bites in this one of them.
Speaker A:It's funny because it's like, oh, like Paris hilton. That's hot. But it's like it's the truth. You're right. I love you. Good for you. I so appreciate that about her. Like, there are a couple of moments in this episode and then another one in episode three that I can't remember where she's just, like, straightforward and speaks her mind, but not in a super rude way. And I'm about it. I love it because you never see this kind of person in anime.
Speaker C:Yeah. Her confidence comes from a place of self assurance and father.
Speaker A:She's very genuine.
Speaker C:Yeah. Rather than the status that she has in the school. She's so beautiful. She's so popular and all. She's not confident because of that. She's confident because she knows who she is and she's earnest about it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, she herself doesn't really acknowledge her status at all. It's always him being like, oh, she's the queen of the school. And then when they walk down hallways just having, like, background chatter about her, but she's never like, well, as the queen of blah, blah, blah yeah.
Speaker A:So what? Kind of hears her say that and perks up a bit and thinks, oh, she's accepted for who she is. That must be so nice. Then after school, we see some guys asking him to take their cleanup duties, and he says yes, he doesn't have anywhere to be. And then the other guy is like, you shouldn't be doing this to him. Like, that's not cool. And he's just like, no, bye. He said it's fine, but he's cool doing it alone. He doesn't want to talk to anybody. But as he's doing it, maureen comes in and he wonders if she forgot something. But then she starts putting the chairs on the desks and she asks, what's wrong? And he asks what she's doing? And she's like, I'm on cleaning duty. I'm here to clean. And he's like, you're actually going to? And she's like, yeah, it's kind of what I'm supposed to do.
Speaker C:I'm not an asshole that ditches dude running down the hall.
Speaker A:So she asks where everyone else is, and he says, they all had work. And she asks straight up if they're taking advantage of him. And I was like, God, yes. Because she was just like, that can't be right. They all have work that can't be true. And he's just like, oh, I guess they are taking advantage of me. And she's like, don't you mind? And he's like, I guess, but they thanked me, so it's fine. And she's like, no, they're using you and you shouldn't say yes if you don't want to do it. You need to take better care of yourself and say no next time if you don't want to do it. You shouldn't hide how you're really feeling. And again, I was just like, God, yes.
Speaker B:This kid gets it.
Speaker A:This is good. This is actual good advice from an anime character. Then days later, because he says it so we know it's days later, it's nighttime, he's doing some sewing, he cuts his finger, and his grandpa goes to find him a Band Aid. And he hasn't been able to stop thinking about maureen and what she said and how she saw right through him and how he really hasn't ever been able to say how he feels. Grandpa brings in a bandaid, wakana, tries the sewing machine, but it's not working. So Grandpa's like, oh, I'll get you a new one soon. The next day at school, he goes to a room with a sewing machine. And luckily there's no club that uses that room, so no one will be in there. And he takes his doll out and says, I'm sewing your outfit today. Beautiful. I love you, Mother. I'm making you yeah, it's a little creepy. Boy, if people saw you do that, they would not like you.
Speaker B:Why do I not have any friends?
Speaker C:I've seen well letter and I know where this goes.
Speaker A:So just then maureen comes in and he gets so startled. He kind of like tosses the doll and he dies and catches it. And he's like, oh, my life is over because she saw me in here. But she thinks it's awesome that he knows how to sew. And he tells her that he learned how to sew when he was a kid because his grandpa makes hena dolls. And she asks to see the one that he has with him. And she says it's beautiful the way.
Speaker C:Her eyes sparkle that she doesn't immediately try and grab. Like he hold it out. She just looks at it.
Speaker A:Yeah, I didn't even think of that. That's great because yeah, that's such a.
Speaker B:Trope of like, oh, this thing that I'm not going to show up to respect, but, oh, I'm showing interest even though I'm clearly disrespecting what you're doing. That is such a thing. And she's like, oh, no, see, I know boundaries. I'm the most adult person we see this entire show.
Speaker A:Yeah, she's definitely subverting, like the popular outgoing anime girl Expectations. And he can't believe she's complimenting it. She asks if he made it. And he says, oh, my grandpa did, but I'm going to make the outfit. And she asks if he makes clothes. He says he does. She starts undressing and is like, oh, wait a minute. Can you turn around? And he's like, yeah.
Speaker C:Why are you doing that? Yeah. She's like, can you look away? I'm like, Why did you start in front of him? This is kind of on you ask him first.
Speaker A:And then she's done. She asks him to look again, and she has, like, this black dress looking thing on, and it's kind of a mess. She asks for advice, and he's not sure what it's supposed to be. And she shows him an anime character, and she says, I worked really hard on this, but it's not done yet. And he kind of just goes off without meaning to. He's like, It should have a lining. The seams are awful. And he just goes on and on. And he notices that she's crying and gets on his knees and is like, you can kill me. I'm so sorry. I didn't mean to hurt you. But she says she's not mad and that he can calm down. She says this dress is the first step toward her goal to cosplay because she wants to express her love for her favorite characters. And then we get a panty shot. And again, I was like, God, dance.
Speaker C:There's another one that's close that's telling. The most obvious sign of, like, is this show horny is certain camera angles. And if they include panty shots because we've seen enough shows where I'm like, this isn't about being horny. The girl on the skirt, you don't have to see her underwear, but if they include the panty shot, it's kind of horny of a show no matter what the genre is.
Speaker A:Yeah, but this one is more horny.
Speaker C:This one's real.
Speaker A:This one gets going.
Speaker C:You can see the label on it. You can see all of it.
Speaker A:So she says she doesn't have a sewing machine at home, but as he can see, the dress isn't great, so she needs help. So she asks for his help and she's like, I won't force you, but the character means so much to me, and I need help showing the world how much I love the character. And Paul was watching this moment with me, and he was kind of, like, giggling a little bit. And I was like, that's why I cosplay like, I love a character so much. I want to be them and show it off, you know?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:So because he can see it in her eyes and he, like, thinks about the things that she said to him, he agrees. It might not be perfect, but he'll try. And she gets so excited and how he thinks about how he never thought he'd make a promise like this with someone like her. And she says if he ever needs anything, she'll help him out. And she can't wait to cosplay a character from this show. We find out it's a game. I'm not going to say the whole title. Slippery Girls is part of it. Girls of a humiliation club. And I was like, Is this hen tie? And then we get the ending, which is very cute.
Speaker C:The style is adorable, very pastel, very soft. Yeah, I was.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Confused. Why? Because I think he also says they don't have a home EC class either.
Speaker A:So why is there a sewing machine? Yeah.
Speaker C:I'm like, why is there a room full of craft and sewing gear if there's no club or a class for it? This seems like a bad use of school funding. I want to talk to the superintendent.
Speaker B:And you know the schools, once one textbook rips in half, you just got to sew it back together. We're not going to give you the money to buy another book.
Speaker C:Turn page 47 in your biology textbooks, you'll see a nice cross stitch. It's beautifully done by Stephen over here. Yeah. So we start off episode two, right, where episode one left off. Starts off with marin repeating the super long title of this game. Again, not saying it slippery Girls too.
Speaker B:Slippery Humiliation.
Speaker C:And she goes into just a massive tangent about what, like, explaining what this is and, like, a plot. And you can tell she's just a big old nerd about it by the way, she just unloads a five page summary on it, like, off the top of her head, which the show is.
Speaker A:About two mentally ill people and they're hyper fixation.
Speaker C:I was going to say we've all done this. We've all been in this position on both sides. We know what this is like. And wakana is very confused because he's never heard of this game. And he's like, I guess this is what games are like. Now, I don't really play video games a lot, so I guess this is what's popular. And marin says it's an erga, which is erotic game. Yeah. rogue, which yeah, erotic game. It's a head tie.
Speaker A:I respect her so much.
Speaker C:We both bonded over fuck. What was it, honeypop?
Speaker A:Oh, yes.
Speaker C:So same hat. And she said it's so popular, it's even getting an anime soon, which, oh, boy, who would all be who would want to watch a super horny anime?
Speaker A:Not me.
Speaker B:Anyway, back to the super horny anime.
Speaker C:It's everywhere. She explains, like, the plot and walking out just, like, blown away. And he's more shocked. He's like, this is just openly talking about a porn game. It's like oh, she's joking. This is a joke because it's so wild. There's no way she would be talking about this real game. And then he's saying that in his head, and he cuts back to what she's saying and he sees the look on her face, like her eyes shrunk, and she is just deep in that nerd ranch. He's like, oh, no. She's super real. She's very honest about this. This is 100% serious. And she talks about how she's obsessed with this, like, one character who wears, like, a black gothic lovely, that sort of dress and stuff, and how she loves her so much she wants to become her and dress her up like her. And while she's talking about this character, we get, like, flashes of little instances of the character behind marin as she's talking, and the last one is just the character and a ball gag. So in case there was any question just so horny.
Speaker A:I want to become her.
Speaker C:I think it's when she says that, we see, like, the ball guy pitch. It's like yes. So he asks, he's like, this sounds like an adult game. Is this an adult game? Yeah. Isn't that age restricted? What are you talking about? Everyone does this. Yes, it is, but we all play them anyway. He's like, oh, I'm surprised a girl would play games like this. And she says, again, Another banger if you find something that you're super excited about and really into. Does gender really matter?
Speaker B:I definitely already edited this intro to just say, does gender really matter? No, it doesn't. We're covered there.
Speaker C:And of course, this hits them really hard with this hyper fixation with Hena dolls. So he gets it. He understands, and she gets excited and like, oh, wait, here, let me show you this beginner's guide to making cosplay that could help you with making the outfit because it's been extreme more than regular clothes. He's like, okay, cool. And they're looking through the guide real quick, and they both stop and realize she had a step by step guide on how to make cosplay and still messed it up this bad. She's like, I'm so embarrassed.
Speaker A:Yeah, sewing is not easy, though. Even if you have the directions and a pattern, it's like it's hard.
Speaker C:We've all had to pull the box back out of the trash can when you're making dinner, and you're like, wait, what is the third step in this five step process? We get it.
Speaker B:Then you throw it away again, walk back to the kitchen, and then immediately go back because you forgot it already within one step.
Speaker C:Yeah. So she's like, all right, let's get started. Let's get to this. I'm really excited. He's like, I'm a little busy this weekend, so could we actually start next week? Could we do, like, Monday? She's like, oh, yeah, sure. If you're busy, we can just wait till Monday.
Speaker A:Why?
Speaker C:And so we go back home and we see. Grandpa says, like, hey, don't worry about the shop. We're not going to open tomorrow. I have to run to get the sewing machine for you, so just keep the shop closed. And while he's in his room, marcus just, like, looking up at the ceiling, reflecting what happened today. And he really agreed to help her out, and he's doing this. And he gets all flustered looking through the Cosplay guide because he's got to take measurements.
Speaker A:And kill, what are you doing?
Speaker C:I was like, he was in the south. Next day, he wakes up. He goes about his morning routine. Here's a knock at the shop door, and he goes to open. He's like, sorry, we're closed. The machine is broken, marin. She's like, yeah, I couldn't wait till Monday. We're doing this now. And she doesn't kick in the door, but invites herself in. He's like, oh, we're closed. Grandpa's not here, so you can't be here, because it's just me, and I'm very nervous.
Speaker A:I can't be alone with a girl.
Speaker C:Whoa.
Speaker A:Whoop.
Speaker B:Hey, don't let kids take advantage of you and doing all the work. Also, I'm going to blatantly disrespect your boundaries, even though I've been very cool so far.
Speaker A:Let me in.
Speaker C:Not wrong.
Speaker B:Fuck you. No, you're helping me.
Speaker C:True. Because before I watch this video, I was like, oh, she's demanding and demeaning, but it's kind of like a humiliation kink of a show. And I was like, oh, no, she's actually pretty sweet. And then I saw this was like, oh, there it is.
Speaker A:It really switches on and off. Yeah, next episode. She's a little more demanding also, but not to this extent.
Speaker B:Yeah, she's starting to embody the character.
Speaker C:She says she couldn't wait all weekend. And he's like, well, how did you even find my shop? She's like, I knew your name, and I knew you worked on handed dolls with your grandpa, so I looked those up, and there you are. All right, there's the shops page on the website there. And she's like, oh, I brought you cheesecake. I'm coming in. And, like, you know, it was a fairly hot parent's quote of, like, I'm asking for permission respecting your boundaries, but I'm just regarding them. Anyway, by coming in, she brought a gift. It was clearly considered, but it's still just coming in anyway, so she invites herself in. She starts exploring the house, and she's walking his room. She's like, oh, is this your room? And he's like, no one's been in my room except for me and my grandpa, and starts freaking out that there's a girl in his room. And he's deep in his own head, and he's, like, freaking out. And you can hear his heart, like, beating and drowning out all the external noise, and he's trying to calm himself down. And when he kind of snaps back to Mary's calling his name and like, hey, you're still there? You still with me? What's going on? You kind of zoned out bringing him back. So she's like, all right, let's hurry up and do this. Let's do it. He's like, what do you mean, wink to the audience? Not that she wants to take the measurements, of course. Of course. So he says he's like, it's fine. I'll have to get someone else to do it instead, because you. Need to get your measurements. And to do that, you have to be in your to do that, you have I do it as a bit. But he is this sweaty and nervous at all times. Yeah.
Speaker B:This is the rest of the episode. This will not change his state.
Speaker A:Yeah, truly.
Speaker C:I can just discard, like, half my notes just by summing that up there. And she says, no problem, and starts like, I'm bunding her shirt and ripping. And he starts freaking out. She's like, I thought ahead of that. I'm wearing a bathing suit instead of my underwear. And she reveals a shrink bikini, which honestly is more revealing than those underwear I've seen.
Speaker A:I was going to say more scandalous than regular underwear, probably.
Speaker C:So like and he short circuits when he goes to try and touch her. And he freaks out trying to take her measurements. Again, this is the rest of the episode.
Speaker A:Just measuring different parts of her body and freaking out at each one.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Taking five minutes of really? You want my hand near here? Shoulder?
Speaker C:Is it freaking you out? Because I'm looking at you? I can close my eyes if that helps. And it does help a little bit. So he goes to measure her head, and she opens her eyes as a joke, right as he does. And it freaks him out. And he falls over and cracks his skull against the wall again.
Speaker A:And he dies. And that's the end of the show.
Speaker B:That's the show. He died.
Speaker C:How we lived.
Speaker B:Horny.
Speaker A:Horny and nervous.
Speaker B:Horny and surrounded by dolls.
Speaker C:So she turns around. She's like, I have to turn around. And maybe better that way. He starts staring at her ass. Or he asked how she's not embarrassed to be in a bikini in front of effectively a full blown stranger. Like, they only really talked, like, twice before. And he's like, aren't you embarrassed? She's like, no, especially not if I'm going to be dressing up as his favorite character. I love that's from a porn game.
Speaker A:I also appreciate the anime confirming that he is an ass man because yeah, he's like, I'm so nervous looking at her boobs. Maybe she turns around. It'll be easier. And then he looks at her butt and he says, this is worse.
Speaker C:Good for you.
Speaker A:You're correct.
Speaker C:So while she's turned around, he slaps himself for composure, which is definitely not a sound you want to hear with your back turn to somebody. And he has to get to control himself. She's very dedicated to this. She's very earnest about this. She wants to do this because she loves his character, and it's a passion of hers. My hornyness is sullying her dream. And I have to raid in the horny. So I have to be just as composed and passionate about this as she is. Let's do this. So he gets all of her measurements, and she wants to see she also wants him to measure her feet because she has trouble with lost shoes.
Speaker B:Just gratuitous.
Speaker C:This is so good.
Speaker B:This is tarantino, subsection of fans.
Speaker C:This is a guest director for this one and only episode by quint tarantino himself. And he's like, oh, we're not going to build on your shoes. I just do clothes. She's like, oh, but even if we build stuff around the shoes we buy, they don't fit well for me, so you have to measure my feet. He's like, all right, let me go get your chair. She's like, that's fine. I'll just sit on your fold about futon. And he loses his fucking mind about this futon. Like her sitting on the futon, which I guess is like a girl sitting in your bed. Like, I guess that's the parallel.
Speaker A:He says it's because it's dirty.
Speaker B:But I don't but the way he's saying it being like, it's dirty. You can't be on there. He's definitely thinking like, I jack off in that bed. You can't be sitting there. Come on, give a guy a heads up.
Speaker C:This is why you have to let me know.
Speaker B:I'll change his feet.
Speaker A:Don't ask me why. The comforter is crunchy.
Speaker C:Sorry.
Speaker A:That was bad.
Speaker C:Just have to blanket in half cheetos in here. David I was wondering if he was paranoid that she might get pregnant by sitting on it. Because I know that's a dumpteen fear of, like, contact with anything. Like but he really, like, loses his fucking mind about this. And she doesn't care. She's like, I don't care so much. Here, let me lay down and recline on it. Full body and pose. I'm like, I get it. Horny show. But jeez, this futon is really just presenting her in any way possible. Yeah.
Speaker B:My thinking is for her to be this oblivious, she has to know and has to be loving it. And she's just like, character research. Get this boy horny.
Speaker A:She absolutely does. Like, with the way this plays out, it's like she knows.
Speaker C:Yeah, we see a few.
Speaker B:You can't have a favorite game. Be a horny game and be like, why is this teen boy so nervous around me in a bikini touching my breath?
Speaker A:What?
Speaker C:My favorite game is a headtime. What sex, though? What are you talking about?
Speaker A:Never heard of it.
Speaker C:Never heard of it. Never listen to music. So he's panicking and she sits on the futon and really just puts her foot down and she just says, like, we're measuring my foot on this. Do it now. And we get some just wildly horny camera angles.
Speaker A:Oh, boy, it's crazy.
Speaker C:And so he measures her foot. The whole process of measuring her foot done instantly, like off camera. But the build up to it, it's like half the episode.
Speaker A:That's what she want. The build up is what makes it good.
Speaker C:It's about the genicipation. I hope it lasts. And next she says like, all right, we got all that done now. I want you to measure my bust. And once again, we got walking up panics, saying, he can't do it. She has to do it herself. She's like, I can't, because the angle changes the measurement, so you got to do it. And the whole time, she's just actively waving her tits at him, and he starts struggling to concentrate. Eventually gets it done, and they finish up, and she's a cool. Now that we got all the general stuff done, how about we go for specifics? Can you measure my inseam and my bus point? And again, he starts freaking out because apparently to measure bus point, you need to know where the nipples are. Didn't know that. So he starts freaking out about that, and she's like, oh, right. You have to see my nipples. Well, you can see them if you want. She's like, no, I'm kidding. Fucking nerd. She's like, I'll do that myself, and starts measuring it, and she gets the measurement in which she tells him it blows his mind.
Speaker A:I couldn't tell if it blew his mind because of the measurement or if it's just, like, the knowledge. Now that he knows where they are.
Speaker C:It blew his mind and a load in his pants. So moving on.
Speaker B:Hey, don't get ahead of yourself.
Speaker A:Yeah, no spoilers.
Speaker C:Sorry. So she does that herself, and he thinks like, all right, inseam will be easier. And again, he kind of gets composure to himself, and he's like, all right, I got to be more confident about that. Like she is. She's very confident about this and doesn't care, so I have to have the same mindset she does. So let me get her inseam and starts measuring her inseam. And right as his hand graces the upper part of her leg, she makes a flustered noise. He goes, what? Did you say something? No, I'm fine. He goes, oh, you're probably hot in here.
Speaker A:Your face is so red.
Speaker C:Let me go put on the AC. So he runs off in terms of the air conditioning, and when she's alone, she kind of, like, fidgets a little and just lets out some fluster. And once they're done, she starts getting dressed again. And he's like, oh, I'll need some references for the outfit of the character. And she's like, oh, don't worry. I brought you slippery Girl One and slippery Girls Two. You need both to understand the whole plot and lore, which, again, is us. We've talked about plenty of shit, this whole podcast. And when she hands him the games, he sees that she's still getting dressed, since she wasn't a full bikini before. Now she's just got her button up shirt on and nothing else, and that triggers them again and gets them all flustered, hot and heavy again.
Speaker B:She's less naked.
Speaker C:Lost my notes. So he gets back in the middle of her changing, and he freaks out about that. So she leaves. She's like, all right, thanks for the help. I'll talk to you on Monday at school. He's like, and then we cut to you. That night, grandpa comes home. He's like, I'm back. I got the sewing machine. And he goes he sees walking up in his room, opens up the door, and he's just playing the board games unabashedly. And he's like taking notes. And he's like, oh, hi, Grandpa. Well, there's just girls moaning, like, from his computer.
Speaker A:So that's how it looks from the back. I see.
Speaker C:Yeah, he says that. And it's just like grandpa's just like, cool. I'm going to let you have your time, champ. He's like, I guess he's that age. I guess it shouldn't be too strange. But it's weird. He's taking notes. And yeah. wagon is just very clinical of getting angles of the outfit and stuff. Does not see it as a porn game at all.
Speaker A:Grandpa should have knocked.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But also with the way wakana is acting, who knows if he would have even been like, oh, no, don't come in.
Speaker C:Yeah, he would have said, come on in. What's up?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Two now. Episode Three So after playing all that porn video games, it's going to go to your brain. So he has a dream and he gives her the final cosplay. And she's all beautiful and dressed up. And she's like, oh, wow, I'm getting all horny like the character. What if sex stream?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:So he wakes up panicking. Oh, no. Oh, god, why would my brain go there when it so clearly has been there forever?
Speaker A:Shucks.
Speaker C:It's been there for a week.
Speaker B:And then he pulls up the blanket and looks under and is like, oh boy. And then he sees a doll head. And he's like, turn around. I'm in Paris. Because he fucking had a weird dream.
Speaker A:Hey, this is again similar with like Kuzno home guy. Just like the realisticness of teens being sexual. Obviously this is exaggerated with the way he's nervous around her and stuff like that. But I appreciate it. This is real. I feel like I've never seen an.
Speaker C:Anime where this happens where a wet dream happen. I can honestly say no, I've never seen that before in an anime.
Speaker A:Like, maybe one with a horny dream, but not so explicitly being like, oh, that's explosively.
Speaker C:Horny real talking. Hate that shot of a doll when he looks up because he's got like her teeth out a little. That sucks to look at.
Speaker B:Yeah. No thank you. But hey, let's be real. That's not the first time he's come with a doll watching.
Speaker A:He probably turns it around or looks right.
Speaker B:He does say turn around. So he's like, you should know the process by now. He goes to school and he's all embarrassed. He's like, now I'm going to see her. And then I'm going to think about how I nodded to her. And she talks to him in public about the stuff they're working on. And he's like, wait, you don't hide it because you're not embarrassed by me? Something you've never indicated. And he's put off by the social standing. He's like, no, I can't be here. I'm dirt. I'm peasants. And she's like, no, come meet my friends. And they talk to him, and they note he's uncomfortable.
Speaker C:I was very surprised the one friend pointed that out. She says, this guy's clearly uncomfortable. We should probably leave him alone. I was like, emotional maturity in his anime from a high schooler. That's not the main character.
Speaker B:What? We're the popular kids, but we're being the most decent people in this show.
Speaker C:We're popular because we're nice, wild, because.
Speaker B:People like us, because we respect them.
Speaker A:For the most part.
Speaker B:But he avoids her for the rest of the day because he's so put off. So after school, he's hiding, and she finds him, and they need to go shopping to get all the things. But he's like, look at the time. I got to go. And literally runs away and just cowers on the sidewalk. And she just follows him and is like, hey, dude, come on.
Speaker C:I like, that. He says, how'd you find me? It's like, you're crouching on the sidewalk. There's a fence I can see through. I just saw you. That's like, yeah, he is, like, 7ft tall.
Speaker A:I appreciate the anime, acknowledging how silly it was.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:And he's like, well, people saw us talking, and I overheard some people saying that we were going out. And she's like, oh, going out? Like, shopping? Yes, we are. Let's go.
Speaker A:Got you.
Speaker B:So they go to the store, and he has the plans for the pattern that he's working on. And she sees it and is like, whoa, you did all this already? And is just amazed at how detailed he is. And he has, like, a very particular list of all the things they need. So little shopping, not montage. The rest of the episode is mostly them shopping. But they go look at fabrics, and he's like, oh, I wasn't planning on shopping today. I don't have money. And she's like, well, I'm the cosplayer, so it would be dumb of me to not save money for this very expensive hobby. So I have some.
Speaker A:Yeah. I was like, dude, she should be the one paying for it. It's for her.
Speaker B:Yeah, you're doing the labor. She has to provide the material. That's how it works. So he's noting, like, she wants this, like, shiny fabric. And he's like, hey, no, you dumb simpleton. It's about the nice details of she goes to a fine, upper crust horny school, so she has to have all that fabric.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker C:Nothing about Horny regency.
Speaker B:So next off, they go to the wig store, and same thing. She's like, ooh, a black wig. Great. And he's like, but what if you looked at her fucking hair and thought, it's purple?
Speaker C:What if we actually match the character?
Speaker B:Yeah, in his head, she's like, wow, for her favorite character, you know nothing about her.
Speaker A:She's too busy looking at other things.
Speaker B:I bet you could describe some things already done, teddy's. So they go with a more purpley one. And she thanks him for helping and his eye for detail. And he's like, wow, I feel useful for the first time in my life. Weird. So next up, she's like, well, got to go get the undergarments. So she has to go get garters and stockings. And that means going to an underwear store. Just standing in the Victoria Secret in the mall, just very uncomfortable because she's in the changing room trying stuff on. And he's like, I think I might go to jail for standing here. If someone sees me, they're definitely going to think I'm a monster.
Speaker A:And all the other women in the.
Speaker C:Store just don't care, not even looking at them.
Speaker B:And she opens the curtain a little and shows it. And she's like, this is hot, right? And she's like, you're showing me you're underwear. I can see everything. And she's like, as thanks. Want to see a little more? And he's like, oh, no. So later on they're walking out of the mall and we hear the thoughts of just a bunch of adults watching them being like two kids on a date. I see young love. I remember when I was married. And we cut into their conversation and she's like, oh, yeah. What part of the game are you at? He's like, well, I'm stuck on that level where you have to like ejaculate in front of the entire school.
Speaker A:Oh, god.
Speaker B:And they're like, oh boy, the Internet fucked us off.
Speaker C:That's just a normal conversation you'd hear at any anime convention.
Speaker A:Hey, don't eavesdrop. It's rude.
Speaker C:Come on. In a fucking business, old lady.
Speaker B:Come on. Have respect for the boundaries of this public space. So anyways, he was coming real hard, but I didn't have mana.
Speaker C:My hand started cramping. His hand started cramping. It was a good time.
Speaker A:It was a whole thing.
Speaker B:Cinventory.
Speaker C:Sorry. That's all I had. Well done.
Speaker B:So he talks about where she wants to show off her cosplay. And they start looking at Instagram cosplayers and all of the people she looks up to. And she's talking about all of them of like, oh, she's so cute. And she does younger characters. She's in middle school, but she's just going through all of her favorites. And he's not really reacting. And so she's like, you seem to not care. He's like, oh, well, sorry. It's just that I live by a.
Speaker A:Code you never understand.
Speaker B:You see, I'm a doll man from way back. And when I first saw doll, when my grandpa brought me to his doll shop to see dolls, I was like, wow, beautiful. And I'll never use that word again unless I truly mean it. I'm sorry. If we can't still be friends after.
Speaker A:It's almost like I'm setting something up for the rest of the anime.
Speaker C:I'm.
Speaker B:Sorry, but she's like, oh, no, I respect that. You have, like, values you live by. Respectful.
Speaker C:I really wish he just saw like, a random dog. He's like, that dog is beautiful. She's like, what the fuck? Like, just immediately undercut that scene.
Speaker A:Yeah, I appreciate exactly how she put it. I'm like paraphrasing, but she's pretty much like, no, if you have something like that and you want to stick to it, stick to it. Like, Go, you got your principals.
Speaker B:Yeah, so they went and got ramen and she's buying more food on the walk home. And she says that my notes app just closed. He made her really happy, and not many people would actually play the game she recommended. They just go, that's nice, and then move the conversation along. Something I envy to this day, having that skill.
Speaker C:That's a real moment for me.
Speaker B:And she appreciates him, truly. Not just that he's doing all this work, but that they're actually becoming friends. And she offers a bite of her food and he's like, no, that's second hand kissing.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:And she's like, all right, well, whatever. So goodbye. Also, the cons in two weeks and runs away. And he's like, Wait, I have two weeks to finish. And that's where we end episode three.
Speaker C:You was.
Speaker B:Oh, you needed this food.
Speaker C:You don't realize how long it fucking takes to make this from scratch.
Speaker A:Hey, Con Crunch. God, the first time you're ever making a cosplay costume, put him in Con crunch.
Speaker B:I mean con crunch. In this context.
Speaker C:I will say Wakana's last name is gojo. And in the dub they call him gojo. And I couldn't hear it and not think of the fuck boy from ginger chute kaisa. Yeah, it ruined it for me. He ruined that name for me. I can only associate it with him now.
Speaker A:Yeah, but here we are.
Speaker C:Eb there yet?
Speaker B:Yeah. For as horny as it was, I didn't expect to like a show this horny. Hell yeah, definitely. It gets very old with his discomfort. Clearly they're going to get together. Let's just push it a little further so he can at least interact with her without like, oh, no, my soul needs to be flushed down a toilet. I'm waiting. Garbage strash.
Speaker C:Is there like a meta joke with the humiliation kink of the game? And she's always teasing him. It's just edging for twelve episodes. Like, they never get together and that's part of the appeal.
Speaker A:No, I hope they get together. But also probably the teasing stuff is definitely that.
Speaker B:Yeah, it definitely works. But yeah, I would just love for them to get past that because she is such a good character where she's like, no, I'm talking publicly. I'm popular, but I'm nice and I have, like, decent human skills. But also, I just am unwittingly getting this boy so hard all the time.
Speaker A:No, and I said this when we weren't recording. This is another one of those shows where it's like they could literally be in college and it would make me like it more because I like so much about this show. I love that character dynamic of shy boy, confident girl. I like the hordey stuff, but because they're in high school, it's like, no, stop it, it's bad. Please. But honestly, I'll probably keep watching this because it's only twelve episodes. I think there's going to be a second season. Yeah. I really love her. I think she's such a good character.
Speaker C:Having not watched the show before, she's a wildly popular character. I've seen plenty of this is the first time I've seen that guy. This is the first time I've seen that dude face. Wonder why. But yeah, knowing what I know about the show, which is it's wildly horny and so are the fans, I thought this is sort of a token show of mean spirited, belittling female lead and guys very submissive and stuff. I was very delightfully surprised to see that she is just earnestly, a very sweet and caring character. She does tease him and raise him a bit, but it's more of like flustering him because she knows he's such a shut in and kind of reserved rather than actually bullying him and being a bad person in the relationship.
Speaker A:The second episode is like so horny, but the first and third episode have some really genuinely sweet and great moments. And for me that makes it better.
Speaker C:The whole scene of them, like the whole exchange of them on the bridge in episode three was just genuinely a very heartfelt scene. Yeah, I was very surprised.
Speaker A:I will say there's a show that I will never bring to the podcast called Don't bully Me, Miss nagatoro, which is episode two, just over and over again because it's like the mean, demeaning girl bullying the submissive boy. And it's entertaining to watch. But it does get old because it's just that over and over again. Also, they're even younger.
Speaker C:So ill. Yeah. I thought this show was like that because I always see them talked about together in tandem, so I thought that was the energy this show was going to have.
Speaker A:It's like almost similar, but this is genuinely sweet. And that had a genuinely sweet moment. I don't remember how many episodes we watched of it, but it took maybe five episodes for anything like sweet to.
Speaker B:Happen and the restional bonds that laid in. Come on.
Speaker A:But yeah, this was really good and I liked it a lot.
Speaker C:Yeah, we're already a quarter of the way done it because it's only twelve episodes right now, so I'll probably finish it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Non committal. If there's a show you would like us to watch, you can send your recommendations to us. Our email is are wetheryet@gmail.com. Or you can reach out to us on TikTok or tumblr at are we there yet? On both? Not I don't know. You get it.
Speaker A:You get it. You can find me on Instagram and TikTok at honey, period d or on tumblr at honeyd. All one word. And honey is spelled H-U-N-N-I-E.
Speaker C:I'm going to pivot a little differently this week and say you can't find me anywhere. I'm going to be horning on my own time. Leave me alone.
Speaker A:Good for you.
Speaker C:Thank you.
Speaker B:That's for the best. Thank you to camille ruley for her artwork. And thank you to louisian for theme song stories. You can find all of louie's music at Louisong bandcamp.com. Thank you, and we hope you'll join us next week as we learn to live with anime.
Speaker A:Catch me Horny on Main on my tumblr.
Speaker C:Stay out of my bookmarks.
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