AWTY 94 - HYJoshua (Carol & Tuesday with Tate Hollander)

Can you feel my can you feel my can you feel my tears? They won't try can you feel my can you feel my face drops? I felt lonely it's a girl lonely it's a girl.

Hello, and welcome to our weed there yet in exploration and education and anime. I'm your anime idiot, Patrick dugan.

I'm an anime expert. dana hollander.

And I'm brenda mccullough. Your anime, ebony and ivory all together in perfect harmony.

Yes.

Side by side. That's all I got.

That's okay.

It gets us there.

The song is almost 40 years old. I can just know the verse. That's good.

Yeah.

I mean, what reference do you bring that isn't 40 years old?

You know what?

It's all you've got.

That's fair. That's a fair criticism.

Today I am also joined by someone who's very close to me in my life. It's my big brother, tate.

Hello.

Welcome.

Physically close right now.

Yeah.

He's joining us because, as of recording, tomorrow is his birthday.

Thank you.

Yeah. So since it was my pick this weekend, I thought it would be nice to have him on to talk about his favorite anime, I guess. Carol and Tuesday.

I suppose if also the anime I have watched the most of by default.

It's your default favorite.

I was about to say that sounded very loaded. So what is your anime history?

I turned on my hero academia the other day. Two episodes I think I've ever gotten through two episodes of most animes I've turned on you and you.

We're about on the same page.

Carolyn. Tuesday sucked me right in. It might be because the songs are in English, but very catchy. Yes.

So this is a show that what year did it come out? I know it's fairly recently.

I think last year.

Last year, both parties got you.

Yeah.

So 2019, this is one that made a splash, both good and bad when it was released, so we can sort of talk about that. Brendan, dana, I know you both have seen this. How did you find this show?

I really liked it. I binged the first part last week. I didn't know that it had controversy.

Yeah, there's a bit. It's not like a ton. Like what's? Something uncomfortable to bring up right now. I don't know. Just anything. The controversy around it's not horrendous. It's not like the creator of the show murdered somebody. So it's not the worst. It's not Bernie. kenshin rip.

The controversy, of course, is casting a white english voice actor to play the black lead.

Yes, of course. I know about that.

She's not very good either.

Coming in with the scathing tomorrow as.

Well, coloring our view before we even watch.

Yeah, I'm sorry.

You're good. This is something I someone who had not seen the show, heard about. So I was like, oh, okay. It was made aware to me right off the bat. But yeah, before we can dive into that later. But personally, the show. I heard about it from that and just it's the cute busking anime, basically. And that's all I know about it.

Yeah, busking.

It's like planning plan instruments.

Okay. I've been on the Internet too long. I thought it was a fetish thing.

Oh, my God.

It might it might be brendan, I have not seen the show yet. I'm afraid that's the first thing your mind went to.

I have seen the show, so I should have known it wasn't that. But I haven't seen the sun in like, two weeks and it's getting to me finally.

We've been in lockdown for three months.

But it's just now getting there. No. Yeah, I've seen this. I followed it back before it's creation because the creator of it also created cowboy bebop.

Yeah. And Space dandy and all those things.

Yeah. But it's loosely connected to the Cowboy beebop universe.

Yeah.

So I knew about it and watched it right when it came out. And it does that thing where it was released initially and it was just one season, but then in dubbing, since it took longer, they broke the one season up into two seasons. So there's a few animes that have done that, like little witch academia and stuff, where I guess the dubbing needed more time, so they're like, hey, let's release these twelve and that'll give us to finish the other twelve.

Got it.

But it also it works, like, great with the pacing, like watching the whole series or whole season. It works well in two parts, so yeah, you wouldn't even I agree.

Second part is very distinct.

Yeah, they're very two distinct, like, arcs of the characters and stuff. And it works very well. So I enjoy it. I'm already going in with a positive outlook. Nice.

So shall we get yeah, I actually.

Picked specific episodes, so we're gonna watch yeah, we're going to watch episodes one, six and seven.

Who need you? Two and three. You're worthless. You're garbage.

Get out.

No context.

No context necessary.

There's a Carol. There's a Tuesday. That's all you need to know. We're going in. That's it.

Finally. I've collected all seven Dragon Balls. Now to make my wish. Shed long come forward.

What is your wish?

I wish that there is a podcast that combined Dragon Ball with improv comedy.

That is beyond the scope of my power. Yeah, I figured because this podcast you seek already exists.

What?

But I'll let these two hosts explain more.

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A new episode just dropped. My wish has been grounded.

I don't know if I've ever said this before, but I wish I watched this subbed.

Interesting.

I watched it dubbed for the first time for this and I did not enjoy it as much.

Really?

Yeah.

Interesting.

Okay. I'm glad that that is common because I couldn't tell if I didn't like it because of the cast or not. But I wasn't too hot on this. I'll just say it right off the bat. I'm sorry, birthday boy, to shit on your people.

Use your gift. Fuck you.

Let's talk about avatar instead.

Yeah.

Hey, I love you. I don't ever get to say this to someone on the air, but I love you and your cho is valid and I believe in you. You're going to do great things. But I just don't like this anime.

Wait, I'm going to never say this to me.

You haven't earned it yet.

Hated the muscle.

I'm the birthday boy, he said.

Well, we've done this to Brendan on his birthday.

What? hated his anime.

He brought the digimon movie.

I like the digimon movie.

Podcast canceled.

I mean, I only saw it once when I was a child, but it was fun.

And that's the only time you should see it.

I mean, it was made for me, so keep it pristine at those digital monsters.

I'm surprised though, because at least Cowboy bebop is renowned as one of the ones that are better dubbed. Because there is this notion on the internet particularly hitley up like Subs or Better than dubs. And there's whole this war and we've talked about before, but I think even the creators that dubbed for Catholic bbop he liked more than the original Sub. So I'm not sure if they'd use the same studios, they'll use the same creative team.

Well, we know what studio dubbed this.

Yeah, I watched it initially dubbed back when it came out and I watched episode six this time, subbed. So it was a little shocking to me, but I didn't have as much of a hang up. But maybe it's because I watched it dubbed the first time. So I'm already locked in on that one. Got you.

Well, shall we get into it?

Yes.

So we start off with episode one, as is tradition, and we get like a little narration in the beginning with just a lot of glitter and like gold ceiling and stuff. Talking about the seven minute miracle happened on Mars. We're already on Mars. Locked in. It's going to be quick.

We've made it.

That this is already so much more information about the show than I had. And it threw me, honest.

I remember when tate told me it's.

A full on city.

It really doesn't play a part, though. This could be any major city on Earth and it'd be like, yeah, this.

Is mars, which is kind of why it didn't work for me. You're on Mars. You can do some cool shit. But okay, don't all right, that's fine.

There's robots and stuff.

Yeah, they do cool shit. But it could have just been the future. I get what you're saying.

It could have been the same year on Earth, and it would have made.

Sense, except Earth as a dystopian anyway. And we cut to Tuesday, sneaking out of her house. blonde, got fancy dress, real rich girl, and she's sneaking out with her guitar and her robot suitcase. It's the future. everything's a robot except for the guitar.

And the person and people.

She's running away and doesn't have a clear idea how. She's very rich and hasn't run away before. And we see she barely gets on the train right before it leaves, and she's sneaking around. I guess she either didn't buy a ticket or just wants to get away from people. So she sneaks into the livestock cart and is just sitting there with a bunch of goats on the train cart.

I think she does that by accident. It's not that important, but I think she ends up there by accident.

Okay. Yeah.

Just to show how naive she is. She doesn't even know how to navigate a train on her own.

Got you.

Why wouldn't she leave the goat cart? Why would she?

Goats are rad. They have freaky eyes.

It might be smelly in there, though.

Yeah, it's march. It's smelly anywhere. They're martians. So she's writing in her journal that she wants to be a real musician. She wants to get out there in the world. And then we cut to Carol and she's being woken up by her little owl alarm clock robot. And we see her running off and grab her unicycle skateboard. It's like a skateboard, but it's got one big wheel in the center, and she bounces on the sides of it.

I know someone who rides one of those now in the year 2020 and rule those do exist.

It's bizarre. Yeah. And we see her skating around. It takes place in alba City. It doesn't matter. I just wrote that down for somewhere.

Mom.

And we see her skating around and skates by a fruit stand and stops a kid from steam on some of the produce little strings. Yeah.

This genuinely made me mad. I was already like, wow, fuck this. Because in two breaths she says, Get a job and pay for it next time. And then the next sentence she says is, it's so hard living on Mars? You really got to look out for yourself and do what you can to survive.

That kid was trying to get breakfast.

And you took it away from him. What the fuck?

Are you out of his business?

This also seems like the first of a couple things that don't come back into the story.

Like who's?

This kid? Why does she care about him?

She says it in a way that's like, hey, get a job, champ. But, like, she doesn't know who he is.

Yeah. To a stranger, it's like, I don't care what your situation is. You're stealing him.

That's wrong.

I kind of saw it as, like, world building without devoting a full scene to it that will never happen in the future. It was like, she knows who this kid is. She knows the local community, and she knows he doesn't need this fruit. He's just dealing it because he's being a little shit. Which I know plenty of people who've just stolen shit to be little shits. So it's debatable because it's so quick and just SKIMS right past. So, like, for interpretation.

Yeah.

And we see her skateboard in the work. We see Tuesday arriving in the city at the same time, being all struck by it as carol's arriving to work at, like, a burger place. And we see her dealing with a bunch of shitty customers. One guy is saying, like, I demand this. Wow. Why aren't you coming to me with a smile and all happy? And then another guy who's just a sleeve ball who's, like, hitting on her, and it's just like, people suck.

That's the problem. When you name your restaurant Bjburg.

You know what, you get the horny thing, right?

She's like, this isn't that kind of place. And I wanted the guy to be like, oh, sorry. I truly thought this business was for that based on the name.

Yeah. Just pointing to the big sign out front, isn't it?

You literally have bj written on your chest right now.

There is bj's brewery. That is a real ride in the real world.

We've all gone to dick's Sporting Goods with the wrong idea a few too many times, right?

I don't know if we all have.

What and we see Carol go back, and she's just covering the burgers in this, like, yellow sauce. I'm guessing it's like, either super powerful horseradish or super spicy sauce. And then she gives it to the customers, and we see them both freaking out when they bite into it. And at the same time, we see Tuesday walking around the city being an all struck still, and someone steals her robot, her little suitcase. rolly, boy. So she's shit out of luck right away.

She saws her guitar, though.

Still got the guitar, and that's what matters.

You can't eat a guitar, so she's in trouble.

You can if you try hard enough.

You can eat anything once and fiber. Oh, God. The strings. Anyway, while she's in the city, we see, like, a big advertisement behind her of a girl in a big costume selling durian juice. Because God knows everyone loves that stinky spiky fruit and wants that juice inside. And the camera cuts away from Tuesday on the street to the studio where they're recording that commercial. It seems to be like a live commercial, and it was Angela recording the commercial, and she's a star.

The question mark at this point, a star.

And we see her we see her getting mad and storm Offset once the commercial is done and get out of the costume and throw it at her manager being like, why the hell are you booking me for these dunk commercials? I don't want it anymore. He's like, well, you got another one this afternoon. She's like, cool. You're fired. Oh, okay.

She's this person.

Yeah, diva. And so it cuts away and we see Carol also getting fired, just a position there. And she says, got fired from another part time job. Shoot. sucks. Well, I'm going to go on this bridge and just play my keyboard a bit.

Carol, why don't you just make money?

You can just print your own money. So we see her just set up a keyboard up on a bridge, and she starts playing a bit and starts humming along to a little melody in her head. And same time, we see Tuesday walking around her stomach scrawling, being like, maybe I should just go back. No, I can't go back. Fuck that. I ain't going back. Ain't sending me back. Did twelve years of it and ask a band. And she's walking on the same bridge and she crosses paths with Carol. This is Tuesday crossed path to Carol. And she hears Carol humming her song. And Tuesday just starts bawling immediately. And she just starts relatable. Yeah, the second she hears it, just crying. And as she's talking to Carol, she's like, oh, as soon as I heard the song, I started thinking like, it sounds so lonely, like you're trying to find yourself, but you're also trying to find someone else you can relate to. And just starts vomiting all of her feelings out the second she comes in contact with another human being. And Coach is kind of like, oh yeah, that's pretty right.

Wow, no one's gotten a job and make money.

And then we see cop shows up and he's like, hey, you can't play here. This isn't like a public venue. And they run off trying to escape him. And as they're running off, they introduce themselves to each other and then we get the commercial bumper.

I love that anytime Tuesday introduces herself to someone, they're like, Were you born on a Tuesday?

Like?

No.

Why?

What do you I have no idea.

My mom sucks.

Yeah, I remember doing that for my name in like, elementary school or something. Like, why were you named this? I don't know. Why did your parents pick this name? I don't know. Was it special? I don't know. Was anyone in your family name this?

No, it's just like I was zero at the time.

I don't know.

You're going to have to forgive me. I wasn't conscious yet. So we come back from the commercial bumper and we're looking at Angela leaving, I guess the studio or a venue or something, and she's getting into a car and there's just a bunch of fans outside. And I noticed a very particular fan with red hair and two buns.

I noticed that this time too.

I didn't notice it.

Yeah, she's there. She'll be careful.

She's in the crowd. Who her new manager?

I have a feeling Duke is going to watch this one. We don't want to spoil too much. And in the car, we see Angela in the backseat talking with her mom. And her mom's basically saying, like, you can't keep firing managers if you keep pulling this kind of shit. I'm just going to get you an AI. Manager and they'll deal with you. Angela is like, I know, but the dude sucks. I'll try to be better, but these managers suck. And then we cut to Tuesday's house and we see her brother carl's house.

I did that a lot, actually. I confused their names.

This is Tuesday's house.

Oh, right.

Her brother.

But I did confuse their names a lot when I first watched this.

Yeah, her brother found her note for when she, like, ran away and was reading it out to her mom, who's a big wig politician, blah, blah, blah, and too busy for her family. And he's reading out the note. And her mom's basically like, why does she run away? She's got all the shit here. She's got, like, a perfect life. What's her deal? Anyway, I'm going back to work. See you. Second child that's like, oh, see you, Mike.

It's toby.

Close enough. Want to be the first child? Yes.

She probably doesn't even remember Spencer by Harvard.

What's his name?

By Harvard?

Spencer seven. He just had a really early growth spurt. He's just really tall. So he reads a note. And her mom's basically just like, all right, whatever. Back to work. And it's like, cool. And then we cut back to Angela and her mom. They go to this tech lab with like a lot of holograms floating around and stuff. And it's real fancy and futuristic. And we find out her mom's name is dalia. And they go to meet Mr. tao. He's going to be her new manager. And it turns out he is in charge of, or at least works for a studio that up to this point has always worked with AI singers, vocal, lloyds, basically. So all their talent they've had has been manufactured, not like the current music industry. And it was all artificial intelligence that we're singing the songs they did. So they're doing well enough. But he's like, you know what? We're going to change this up, and we're going to be human. He's like, but because you're the first, you know, real person we're having singing, you're going to have to follow everything I say. Like, you got to be willing to be my puppet and just go along with everything I do because it's very calculated and planned out. And there's a reason we're doing it. Angela says, like, you know what? If you can get me out of this child actor modeldel pigeonhole I've been put in, I'll do whatever you want. If you can make me a new career as a singer, I'll go along with it. And then we see Carol on Tuesday back at carol's place. And Tuesday meets jiggy, the little robot al.

Okay, I have something to say about.

This hot take part, too.

It's just weird. In the Japanese with subtitles, his name is ziggy with a Z. And, like, they I mean, in Japanese, it's like ziggy. So, like, I get it, but but it changes the like, this is a.

Music show, and ziggy is a reference to David bowie.

That's what I meant when I heard.

About and jiggy is like, I guess.

Getting jiggy with it.

But ziggy is a more like I wouldn't say it's a more profound reference to music, but it's a more obvious oh, ziggy stardust.

Then will Smith's getting gigi with 2001.

Are you out of everyone's favorite song?

Yeah, it really inspired Carol.

Well, after his presidency in the 2080s, things really took off for him.

I guess after he spearheaded the migration.

To Mars, he went back to his home planet. Oh, God.

That's goodbye to Earth.

So, yeah, that was just a weird thing that I was like, jiggy, excuse me?

What?

Yeah, that's a weird localization choice. Interesting.

I have several of those.

Yeah, there's another one we'll talk about.

I only watch six with the sub, so I missed most of these.

Then six is the one.

Okay, maybe I'm just dumb.

In other ways.

So Carol asked Tuesday, so why did you run away? She's like, oh, how'd you know I run away? She's like, It's very obvious. You're wearing a Castillion dress and have nothing but a guitar. I can't imagine you chose this. And Carol asked like, oh, you played the Gibson. That's kind of legit. So you got to have somebody, or you got it from somebody. Tuesday said she was scared. She's never performed in front of anyone. So she wants to get out there and perform and be better and become a real musician in her eyes. And then we cut to some drunk asshole at a bar complaining about the music that's playing there. And the bartender, to be fair, that.

The music wasn't great.

It wasn't great, but it doesn't make him any less of an asshole or drunk.

I'm not arguing that.

And the bartender comes out, and he's like, I change the music. And the bartender's like, ah, gus, my friend. You know your name is gus very as, you know, Dave, and saying, like, you've been out of the music industry for far too long for you to justify complaining about any music played anywhere. And then gus goes, like, either showboat or swing at him or something, and it just falls over because he's super drunk. And then we go back to Tuesday talking about how stressed she was at home and how she heard the song True Colors and inspired her to get out there and become a musician. And True Colors is also the name of the episode. And then Carol reveals that she grew up in a refugee camp and her parents, like, abandoned her there. So she's never had to run away from a home because she never had one. And one time a singer came to the camp and the singer inspired her so much that she also wanted to become a musician as when she started playing piano or a keyboard. And then we see Tuesday pulls out her journal saying like, oh, after I heard you humming that melody, I came up with all these lyrics just from hearing you. Maybe we can try and work together with some of these lyrics and make a real song out of the melody you're singing.

Excuse me.

This show gets me so choked up and emotional.

Oh, my gosh.

So they start singing and playing together. Afterwards, they climb up on the rooftop. cheat. yuck. Then we get a grand scenic shot of the city and all the lights and it's so pretty. Even though they're down in the slums and on a rooftop and living in a warehouse, essentially. And they finish the song and they're like, well, since we finished the song, might as well get a social media presence. I got an Instagram and actually says Instagram. It's not like, yeah, they say real.

Things in this show.

Both of you. To assume a company is going to.

Last that long, hundreds of years in the future.

That's a good point.

Special social media eternal.

This did have me wondering, though, because it is real instruments. And I was thinking the same thing with Given when we watched that if product placement is easier in an animated show, if it's harder, if it actually helps with the budget as much as a real show, or if animation is more expensive, it doesn't do much, but it helps with, like, recognition. You started asking those questions because you don't see product placement specifically in animation a ton.

Yeah, I was trying to figure that out with the Gibson logo on her guitar case because in the first episode when she's getting on the train, it looks like it's added in post for the localization that's the style of it didn't look, like, connected with the case, if that makes sense.

Well, when I watched this, I watched all of it subbed, like last week. And it's a Gibson hummingbird, like they say.

That got you. Is the English Gibson logo on the case, though? Do you remember?

I'm pretty sure.

Okay. Because it looked like one of those like we changed all the signs to be in English. So you can see it sort of it looked like that level of animation over it.

Yeah, I'm thinking it might have been because they want the specific name like the logo. They might have just drawn everything without the actual brand names and then photoshop them in later so they can get the actual one instead of having an artist redraw it and maybe being slightly off.

Yeah, that could maybe that's what I'm.

Going with because I'm already going too long with this recap. And Tuesday says, like, oh, don't laugh, but after hearing you, I realized I wanted to pursue music further with you. And Carol immediately laughs at her and says, oh, I was singing the same thing. And then we got a panning shot of the sky. And then we hear a voiceover from the beginning. Turns out it's gus, now that we know who he is and saying, at this point, these two girls were complete nobodies. But soon everyone's going to know this famous duo. That's episode one.

Yeah. So here's what we missed. I decided to skip these episodes because I feel like the majority of them is just them trying to figure out how to get exposure.

Yeah.

And like yeah. So, like, once they do these two things in these episodes, like, that's what kickstarts their career. And I feel like these ones are just kind of like filler, just like silly little excursions. But these are the important things. They sneak into a music hall and they perform The loneliest Girl, which is the song that they were doing in the first episode. And roddy, who we know in these episodes, was there and he recorded it and posted it, so it got really popular. And then gus agrees to be their manager because he used to be in the music industry. He was no longer, but he was inspired by them and whatever. There's a funny one where they try to make a music video and it doesn't go well. Then they do a gig at I.

Think that was the second season. No, was it the music video?

Because in episode six, we had a flashback to them shooting the music video.

Yeah, because that's when it's time.

That's when they're getting more confused. Let's get to it.

Yeah.

So, yeah, then they do this gig at the small venue, and after some convincing from gus and a funny situation, we learn a little more about, they get to perform at a festival. So that's where we are now. And we see the opening in this one. And I really love it. I love all of the music in this show.

Yeah, it's topnotch.

Yeah. And the style is really pretty, too.

It's a little ballet.

Yeah.

My second note is, I mean, they're gay, right?

They got me.

And we do get a pretty good recap of episode five. I have never watched any of the recaps, but they do a pretty good job of it. And it's after their first live show and they're really hyped and they did a good job. yay. And then gus goes up and he says, hey, I booked. You your next gig. But it's a little bigger than this one.

Little bigger than ten people.

They are essentially going to perform on the main stage of coachella.

Just the natural next step.

Yeah. Natural progression. gus actually knows the organizer, so that's how he found out about them. And they talk about how it would be an audience of 100,000 people and Tuesday is already nervous about it. And then gus is like, well, yeah.

That'S like a 10,000 times bigger crowd.

Yeah. And then gus is like, well, like your backup, actually, just in case another band ends up not playing. And then roddy will be there too, working for DJ Erdogan. Erdogan does not like them because they caused some trouble at his house while trying to get featured by him. And it didn't work out well. So he is not a fan of Carol and Tuesday.

No. Got you.

I needed that.

Yeah. So they're there to cover for a band called omega. All of them are troublemakers, but especially the singer who in the dove, they call yashua, yashua, yashua. When I'm pretty sure I would have to watch the sub again. Don't they just like, isn't it just Joshua?

It's just Josh.

I really don't know why they did this.

Like, some things do Jwide translations, but even like making it an H and making it Spanish. If you want to go exotic, do that because that's like an established letter that we know has an H sound.

Yeah. This is Josh. So we hear about him. He does some wild shit. He's just like a rock star troublemaker. But he is also very shy. And he's infamous for canceling gigs, for being too nervous and then drinking in hopes that he will not be nervous and then just being unable to perform.

It out like that. It seems very anime.

Yeah. So that's why they get to perform. yay. But again, they might not actually perform. And if they do, the audience that is expecting omega will probably be probably be thrilled.

You know, when you go to see War and then Simon and garfunkel come out.

Yeah. No. Whoever organizes this festival needs to be fired because this is the wildest lineup I have ever seen.

Well, one time when Prince was still coming up in the world, he opened for the Rolling Stones and he got booed off the stage.

Who was there?

Our dad was there. I saw Prince get booed off the stage at the Rolling Stones concert.

Damn.

Well, even then, it's like still rock music at its very core. We'll get into what the acts are, but still very diverse.

So yeah, they're worried about it. But hey, a gig is a gig is a gig, and this is a big one. So roddy is kind of like, I don't know about these guys. And they're like, please just have faith in us. And it turns out the festival is tomorrow.

Yeah. Yeah.

Wow.

Which they didn't know about.

They didn't know somehow the like, biggest festival on Mars.

Well, they have to take a Mars train to get there, so it's out.

Of the city, like Burning Man.

So they're like, oh God, got a rehearse. And then we see that night, neither of them can sleep cause they're both so anxious. And Carol goes down to Tuesday to talk about what they should play. And they're like, oh, since neither of us can sleep, we should just rehearse all night. Maybe it wouldn't write like a new rock song because that's what people want. But it's the next morning and they did not rehearse at all because they fell asleep.

Well, their instruments were out.

Their instruments were out.

I think they rehearsed okay.

You have faith in them.

I think it's implied. Like they started to and then passed out. So like, they didn't get as much rehearsal in as they wanted.

Yeah. And then jiggy, the alarm clock goes off. Weird owl pet AI. Alarm clock goes off and they got to rush out the door. And Carol is like, oh my god, are we going to have a limo? And Tuesday is like, I don't think so. And then they take a train with gus. Yeah, it seems nice. And they get to the festival and they're seeing the lineup and they see that their favorite performer, both of their favorite performer, Crystal is there to perform. So they're like so excited about it. They're like, oh my God, we're breathing her air. And then gus tells them to go to the dressing rooms and warns them not to run into him being erdogan, I mean, this moment and we didn't see him in episode two or whatever it was, this encapsulates him perfectly. He's just like hyping himself up, being like, who am I? Oh, yeah, I'm erdogan, I'm the best DJ in the world.

Yeah. His catchphrase is, who am I? And because I watched this one subbed, I was confused for a second because he's talking to himself in the mirror and on his shirt it says, who am I? But it was backwards, backwards. So I was like, oh, did they translate his shirt for the dub? And sub I'm like, oh, it's a mirror. I'm a fucking idiot.

So he does that. roddy comes in and he's like, hey, it's time to go. And then he opens the door to his adoring fans and he goes out on the main stage to perform his electronic music.

He sacks it's.

Beeps and boots.

Yeah.

And bops and bops.

And so we see gus negotiating with the owner man, about Carol and Tuesday's pay. But he's like, I don't owe you anything. I'm like, doing you guys a favor right now. You should be paying me exposure. Yeah. And then Joshua arrives and he's pretty out of sorts, but his manager goes up to the owner and he's like, he's going to perform even if I have to force him to. But in a private moment, gus is like, I really don't think that he'll be able to. And the owner man is like, well, I don't think Carol and Tuesday are in any place to perform either. And we see them and they're really nervous, and Carol is like, Just pretend the audience is just all potatoes. And then Tuesday is like, I can't eat that many potatoes. Which I think is a fun little joke.

It's pretty fun.

It's a cute little thing, you know, makes them seem like people. People love potatoes.

Oh, my God, that's so me. hashtag me.

And then gus is like, well, now that he's here, your chances of performing are, like, 50 50. And then they go out and they see roddy. So they say hi. And then roddy's like, Get out of here, scatter. He's nearby. So they run. And then Erdogan is like, did I hear the voices of two terrible girls right now? I think, okay, yeah, a tangent, but has to do with the show. My main problem with the dub is the performance of Carol and Tuesday. I think Angela is great. Like, erdogan is pretty good. I think most of it is fine. It's just them. Which is the same problem I have with urian Ice, where the two leads are my least favorite. And I think that's what really throws me about it.

Yeah, I feel like some performances are clearly better than others, but yeah, I feel like the casting is definitely the main issue that I have.

Yeah, it's especially relevant right now.

Yeah.

But yeah, it's dumb. It's really dumb that they didn't cast a black woman to play Carol. But, you know, we're not casting directors, so so they run off and into a trailer, into a man named skip's trailer. And it's like, dark and smoky, and the people in there are really intimidating. It's full of weed.

Got those jazz cigarettes.

Jazz cigarettes.

So someone tells Skip it's time for him to perform. But before he leaves, he goes up to carolyn Tuesday and he's like, hey, aren't you guys the girls from that video? And they're, like, kind of too scared to speak. But then he gives them advice. He's like, don't forget what you're trying to do and where you're coming from, because most musicians nowadays have and I was just like, Cool.

I love this guy. Yeah, we got more of them realized.

Advice in part two, I think.

Not enough, though.

There's more, don't worry.

Still not enough for my liking. More Skip.

Yeah.

And then real quick, there's a shot of Joshua having a breakdown.

I think you mean Joshua.

I'll excuse you.

And then Skip, as he's going onto the stage, runs into someone and we don't see her face, but it's crystal. And they have a little banter. And he's like, hey, listen to me play since I wrote this song for you. So it's clear that they have a past. Does that ever get brought up again? No, as far as I've seen.

I mean, it's called Carol on Tuesday, not skipping Crystal, but I want to.

Know more about skipping Crystal.

And then we get to see him play, and I dig it. It's like cool, psychedelic, funky, chill jams. I don't know how to describe music, but that's close.

It's jazzy.

Yeah, it's like a jazzy rmb sort of thing. And the audience is literally still the entire time.

Yeah. I love the audience shots in this show because they just reuse them over and over again, and I think it's.

Great, but they have some movement for later acts. But here, no one is vibing. If you look at the crowd, or.

You could say they're all vibing very much.

Yeah, they're transcended animating that many people is expensive.

Yeah. So at this point, too, I think it's so funny that whenever Carol and Tuesday see other people perform, they're always, like, shocked at how talented other musicians are. I think it's like a place of sweetness where they're just like, oh, my God, people are so talented. And we see Crystal listening from offstage, and then we find out, yashua, he can't perform.

I carry Joshua, I swear to go.

Do you want my position?

Hey, guys, going out to yashua Tree this weekend.

So Carol and Tuesday are on, but they're really nervous, tuesday especially, but they got to go. So Carol reaches out for a bottle, gives it to Tuesday, expecting it to be some water, but it's labeled for Joshua only. For Joshua only, so we don't know what it is. Presumably alcohol, but she gets really pumped up really fast, so she runs on stage. Carol chases after her, and the audience is super unhappy. Like, as soon as they go out there, people are just like, who are you? where's omega? Bring us the mystery man. What's his name? Josh.

Bring us Josh.

But they play anyway. And as they do, the audience is throwing stuff at them, bottles and trash and such. But they push through. They keep going, which is admirable, until the lights get shut off. And then, bam. omega takes the stage. And boy, is it hard.

It's loud and fat.

Complete opposite of carolyn Tuesday.

Yes, it's understandable why the audience would be upset.

Are you here ready for a heavy metal show? Well, here's some stinger songwriters.

So Carol and Tuesday walk off. They're pretty dejected. Carol, Tuesday has a little cry, and they hug. It's a good hug. They're gay. And then Crystal comes up and thinks that they did great. She's like, I think it's great that you pushed through and you didn't run. And I think this song reached people because I'm one of them. And she gives them a hug, and.

She goes away like an angel.

Like two ships in the night.

Two ships in the night. That hug.

Yeah, they just scrape up against each other.

You found my fan fiction, didn't you?

You've heard on cars now.

Both hey. It's the next logical step. They've also done planes.

They may have done planes.

So gus and roddy find them and they're like, hey, don't feel bad. But they're just excited that Crystal talks to them and hugged them. So they're listening. They're at the main stage waiting for Crystal to perform. And Carol tells Tuesday that one day they will come back to the festival and perform and be good. And then they watch Crystal perform. Yeah, and then they watch Crystal perform. And this song is really good, too. She's like, very beyonce.

It's a good song.

I'll say the muse is good for this song. Crystal sings one verse and then just says unbreakable like 40 more times.

It's fair.

It's a pop song.

Yeah, but there's other words in the English language you could use.

Nah.

Nah.

So that's episode six.

So, yeah, we pick up in episode seven. They're strategizing their next move. They're like, okay, so what we're going to do, since you're talented musicians, we're going to enroll you in the local scene. You're going to play shows at an appropriate level for the size of your band. You're going to regiment and practice and network and just kidding. We're going to do an American idol plotline. Do you remember that show from 20 years ago? We're doing an American idol plotline.

It's still on.

I wrote down I think the most dystopian thing about this future is that American idol still exist because it's like hundreds of brightest. Yeah.

It's called Mars Brightest. And even if they modernized, it to be like America's Got Talent. Any shows that are popular now that could have worked, but they're like, no, we're going for the American idol analogy. Let's do that. So they're like, okay, we're expecting about 200,000 applicants and they're going to pick eight. So naturally, this is the best option for us to get you exposure.

It's how you get famous.

Yeah, of course.

So they get their festival appearance fee of like $900 each. And gus is like, I'll just hold on to that. Don't you worry your pretty little heads about it. And so we go into the high tech meeting for tau and Angela and her mom, and they're talking about how they are also going to enter the contest because they know that there's a very slim chance that an ex child star is going to be able to launch their music career. Because it's been done. It rarely works. blah, blah, blah. But they're like, if she actually earns it, if she proves it and beats other people, of course we're going to bypass her to the next round because we don't want her losing to a bunch of randos. that'd be embarrassing.

She doesn't have to audition.

Yeah.

They're like, we're just going to enter you in this and oh, you just happened to be one of the eight. Perfect. So we go and see the audition process. It's American idol, so we just get a bunch of weirdos prepping and singing and everyone with their gimmicks and themes and all that.

They're very fun, though.

Yeah.

I like the big guy that just.

Yodels sounded like he was just crying for a very long period of time.

Well, I love him.

And we do see a martian.

Yeah, that was a vetus cameo.

They're nervous. An instagram star. His name is Peter. Peter, which you can tell this is a great dub because this is the real last name. It's pronounced piat, but they went with the phonetic pronunciation of Peter.

Oh, I didn't even know that's.

Incredible.

I was too hung up with yashua.

Still thinking about yashua.

There's a well known voice actor who I know for a fact the studio has on the roster named piatt Michael.

So it's like, Are you kidding? Holy shit.

So it's like, no one did any homework. Someone saw that written down or the Japanese version had it the same, and they're like, we changed a bunch of stuff. Let's stop here.

They do say that in the Japanese, but yeah, if they're going to change shit in the English dub, why not change this?

Yeah, literally, I know how it's pronounced, but I went I just googled piat pronunciation. So many things came up to correct it and no one investigated. Wow. Good job, good job, good job all around.

I think it's because I grew up with X Men so much that I was just like, oh, yeah, Peter. Like, Peter rasputin colossus from X Men. No problem. Moving on.

Like, didn't even think it's been mispronounced.

So long, but I just went with it.

But he comes up and talks, and they're worried because they're like, all these people already have fan bases and gimmicks that we don't have. Tuesday is super nervous about being on TV because she's kind of wanted by her family. So gus grabs someone's sunglasses and throws them on her and she's like, perfect. So we go in and see the very refreshing, very not overdone in the last 17 years bad American idol compilation of just all of us.

I love it. Every time.

Auditions.

It's fun, but we've been doing this for 20 years. Can we parody any other competition show?

Well, no, my question is, because I don't watch fucking any of these shows, would any of the other shows be different? Like, are the actual other talent shows any different than just X number of judges?

They do the American idol format here of we're going into a small room where you're one on one with the judges, but America's Got Talent, like The X Factor and stuff. You're in front of a whole live audience, so you also have their reactions as well.

But isn't that the ones that won the local competition to get up in front of the audience? Those aren't just random joe's off the street in front of the street.

I mean, Random joe's off the street don't go into American idol either. They vet that. That's heavily edited.

Isn't America Got Talent? Isn't that vetted as well? Like I said, I don't watch any of these, so I don't know.

Well, the auditions are held in front of audiences. Okay, yeah, they're all vetted, obviously. But yeah, like, every audition is not every audition. I'm sorry, I misspoke. But yeah, on those shows, every audition.

You see on the show, they first went to a producer and went, you're either actually talented or fucking weird enough that we can get some entertainment out of it.

Okay.

But yeah, so we see a bunch of things that the judges are like, fuck this. But once Carol and Tuesday get in the room, they're like, all right, what's your names? And Tuesday, of course, goes, My name is Monday. I'm going to run away on live TV. And they're like, your form says Tuesday. And she's like, Sometimes I'm Wednesday. I'm just quirky like that. And then Carol gives her whole backstory of being a refugee from Earth who was abandoned at a church and all that stuff. We cut away to Angela talking with her mom in the car. Her mom vaguely mentioned something about the incident where she, I guess, had a freak out or something. Is this something we've missed in our episode, Skip, or is this never shown?

No, it's touched on more later, but we didn't skip.

It got you. Okay. Because I needed to investigate because we'll see but basically she's like, hey, you can stay at the house. Like, my medication made me freak out. There's something along those lines. And angela's like, no, I'll still stay on my own. And then Angela is thinking about her old bedroom, and it's like, nothing's changed, blah, blah, blah. And we see that in a picture in her childhood bedroom that her mom is trans. Yeah, I needed to see if we had context on the freak out because I don't know if I'm speaking too early because I don't know what's up. But talking about a medical freak out that made her not want to live there anymore, and then immediately saying, oh, yes, she's trans, that's not great.

I mean, if we want to get it, I get a strong feeling you're not going to continue this.

I will. What's up?

Well, but is it in part two? I haven't finished part two yet.

Okay, got you.

So, yeah, we'll leave it there. But is it whatever. But with the context I have, it felt distasteful, especially when the dub just has a straight up SIS dude. No affectation, no voice change thing going on. It doesn't feel great.

The sub is better.

Yeah, which is why I wish I.

Watch it that way.

But yeah. So the gang all meets up after their audition. Everyone's like, yeah, we're so excited. We're definitely going to win, blah, blah, blah. But tuesday feels sad and distant and she's not enjoying it as much. And then we see a montage of them going about their days later on. And Tuesday is still sad. And we just get sad Tuesday montage.

So I have a sad Tuesday every week.

Wow.

So they meet up along the water. They sit on a bench. Carol finally tracks her down. It's like, hey, what's going on? And Tuesday is like, well, I feel so selfish and shitty because I've made everything about me when I'm running away from my family and their secrets. And I feel bad because you're so open and I want to be like you and blah, blah, blah. I feel bad that I'm so self centered. And then they share more background stuff. Tuesday's parents divorced when she was young, and she hasn't seen her dad since. Mom's a politician, brother, goes to Harvard. And she's the sort of second child less impressive because she didn't want to go to school and wanted to do music.

The family disappointment, same.

Well, there's two of us in this room, so neither of us can argue.

To cheer up, Carol practices with her, like their victory interview. When they get the win for the audition, they're like, hey, let's let's make up a cool secret handshake. And they fumble with it. And a stranger just walks up and is like, fuck you. Here's. Here's a real secret handshake, you idiot.

This was probably the most outlandish scene in the whole series. I'm like, who the fuck is this guy?

I wrote it down as Stranger Man's playing Secret handshake because he's also in.

One of the episodes we skipped at a laundry mat. And they come up with a song in the laundry mat. And he's in there too, like, slapping on, like, the stool he's on. Like giving them, like a percussion beat to it. I'm like, who is this guy? He's everywhere.

He's a busker.

He's going to get a spin off series.

So they go back to their apartment. gus is there. And he's like, all right, good news, bad news, bad news. You got to start working again because I bet all your money at the dog races. And also roddy runs in and is like, hey, you got the audition. That's the good news. I wiped it at the last second. So they're all happy. The news crews are at the door, and they want to go talk to them. gus hands. Tuesday. The sunglasses. And she's like, no, if my mom's going to find out, this is how she's going to find out. So I'll just roll with it. And then that's basically where we end.

I'll say, when gus took those sunglasses from that guy at the Mars brightest competition, he said, I'll give these right back. And then we see them like a week later, still with them.

Dick move.

Got lie.

Dick move.

Well, he also said he'd keep their money safe. gus is a lie.

His word means nothing. But but yeah, yeah, that's where we're at.

So are we there?

We ask for a lot.

Not really on this.

I ask because I put my hands up.

I feel like part of my problem going into it, I was like, okay, this is Street Performer busking anime and was expecting something more along the scope of Given, where it's like, hey, we're going to start a band, we're going to take over the local scene and that and then their second show is coachella. I'm like, I thought we were going to see a small band start to form and all that stuff. And we did skip the episodes where there were those elements, but I feel like this is not the show I thought I was going into, which is part of why I was thrown. But I intellectually know that this is so beautifully animated. The music is very good. It's a very well made show. It just didn't quite work for me because on top of the elements of it's on Mars, which plays a factor in that they say Mars a couple of times, but any other time it could just be kind of future city. I feel like they could have done cooler stuff with that and utilized it better, but they're like, no, this is Mars. That's exotic enough. We'd stand out.

Right?

Okay, cool. Yeah. And I can say the only real tie in between this and cowboy bebop besides the director that made it in, like the crew is the currency they have is oolongs or woolongs, and that's the same in cowboy beebop. There's not even much world it's supposed to be. I didn't even know that beyond that. But it's also similar where it's like, that could have just been Mars dollars. Like, it didn't need to be that.

But it's just one Mars buck, so.

It'S just one of those things where it's like, this didn't really pay off, but it does like a little hand wavy sort of stuff.

I think in part two, when they do the political stuff, them being on Mars is like a little more important, but it's still it's political stuff like.

Few hundred years in the future that was very prevalent when it was made in America. So it was like I don't know if it needed to dugan's point. I don't know if it needed to be Mars. It could have just been any major city.

It could be New New York.

Yeah.

And also just with the whole casting stuff, because that is the main thing I knew about it going in. I looked up the cast, I couldn't find any complete cast lists or anything.

Yeah, that was kind of broken up.

Yeah, because I don't know for dubs, I don't know why it's so much harder to get the cast list released and stuff and just categorize on like imdb or behind the Voice actors and all that, but in a show with a black woman as a lead. The only black actor that is in the show is in the show. Well, there are multiple black actors in the show, but the highest bill black actor is in four episodes, which is not good.

Yeah. And the fact that a black actress could have played the lead of the show, that's a big deal that they decided not to go that direction.

Especially when it's like isn't it the thing? They got a black woman to do the singing voice, but not the speaking voice.

Yes.

Yeah.

Well, yeah. The singing voice is the same in both the sub and dub.

Got you.

Just had her do the speaking voice.

Yeah.

If she's an actress.

Yeah. Or find all the other black actresses that are doing voice acting and dubbing and stuff. And it's like, maybe you didn't try. You didn't even try. But yeah. And the few black voice actors in it are in, like, smaller parts. One is the credit was just gang banger. And it's like, are you fucking serious? No, it's like, are you serious? And this is a voice actor you can hear in major roles in, like, jojo's bizarre adventure and stuff. And it's like, can you put a little thought into this, please?

Can we please?

Yeah.

That's ugly. Wow. Watch the sub.

If you're going to watch it, watch the subs.

But I'll also say there is without spoiling it for everyone here in the second half or season two, there is another marginalized character of a marginalized group. And I believe it's the same thing. I think it is just a random voiced actor who isn't part of that group. And yeah, just a quick look online for Carol on Tuesday about these characters and stuff. It's just like all the stuff that comes up is like, hey, this representation is not good and does not help anyone. Yeah.

I mean, you look at this show and the cast fortunate. This was an opportunity to have an extremely diverse cast. Like, even Angela, she's not sure exactly what her race is supposed to be, but still, you cast a bunch of white women as your leads.

Come on. Yeah. The only black characters are if it kind of depends on their characterizations being black, for them to put a black actor in that role, it's like, that's not good. When you're like, oh, yeah, this is a regular person, so that means they're a white actor. It's like, that's fucking shitty. Can you not yeah.

It really is a shame that the first thing I noticed when I turned on the dub was that she wasn't black. And I was like, oh, this just doesn't seem right.

And the wait, I won't criticize her performance because I feel like that's going too far. But yeah, it really is such a shame because I do really like this show. And I will say, too, that I actually wanted the whole show to. Be like the second half. So from this point on is what I love. The first six episodes are good and they're fun and stuff, and it is like the kind of busking stuff. But I knew about the Mars brightest competition, so this is what I was waiting for and I knew it got you. So, yeah, I think that is part of the issue with your perception of it. But if you don't keep watching it, you should find a playlist and listen to the rest of the music, dude, because it is all very good.

Yeah, because the music is good. Album stellar.

Yeah. We didn't even hear my favorite song, but I wasn't going to skip ahead that far because we need context.

Didn't even get to hear zeno Robinson in his role.

No, he's in part two. That is the only thing. The only other thing I'll watch dubbed is, like, his scenes so I can hear him. Got to support our manzo.

Happy birthday.

My favorite anime by default. I really like it.

It is good.

It's ruined. I hate it now.

Tainted. You'll never watch anime. That's it.

That's for watching anime.

Yet you're slowly turning everyone off of anime show by show.

Brendan, you shut up right now. You don't know the work I'm doing here.

I DA vinci could if I was.

Sent from the future. You don't know what anime turns this world into.

If I'm going to be attacked for all the anime that I like, I'm never watching Boy whoops on the Internet.

Yeah.

That's just life is all right. Yeah.

Those of us who liked Carol on Tuesday, we had a great time this week.

Yeah.

I got to watch Carol on Tuesday again.

I had fun.

I will say for angela's mom, the character, without spoiling anything, they do give an explanation of what's going on. It might not be a good explanation, but they do give one.

Yeah, I do want to investigate that.

Yeah. I think what dugan wants to know is if it is an issue of her being trans.

Because if they're like, not exactly so a little icky.

Little icky.

But because maybe they tried it's kind.

Of undeniable how they phrased it in the train of, I freaked out. It was my medication, I'm sorry. Then they reveal she's trans. It's like are you trying to say estrogen makes you have violent outbursts or something? What?

I might not have been paying attention during the dub, but in the sub, they do not say that she's trans.

I don't think they ever say it, but it's very obvious, like painted that way.

What was that?

The first time I watched this story, that didn't stick out to me. But now watching the second, I mean, you pointing out, digging it's like, oh, yeah. They could have easily separated those two. If not scenes, just dialogue, like lines.

Yeah. Especially if they're not related to each other.

Their intention is different. Than what they are saying with that character.

Yeah.

So it is fair.

Unfortunate.

Yes. I can talk all day about this shit, so let's wrap it up.

Yeah, I just wanted to make that point.

Yeah, fair. It's an explanation, not an excuse.

Yeah, next week I can't speak on that.

Next week, we're watching something that's very colorful and pretty and fun, I hope. I don't know anymore. I think someone's going to be mad. Yeah. What?

So, everyone, the universe needs just a fucking break, and we all just need something so inoffensive, so colorful, so fun, so gentle that it will just heal the world and have no controversy whatsoever. But now that I just said that, we're cursed because we're watching hamtaro.

Oh, my God.

I was going to say ponyo, but.

Hey, we don't do Me azaki here. That's not Anthony.

That's true. We can't afford that.

People roll up and kill us if we say that.

Do you think we have HBO Max? We live that money.

But yeah, just a bunch of hamsters being cute. If something is problematic in this fucking.

Show, I'm going to be so upset.

When did it come out?

I did watch 90, so I'm scared.

I guarantee I did watch it as a kid, but I can't guarantee there.

Isn'T homophobic or something. They're color coded. There's like the Power Rangers.

I genuinely can't guarantee there isn't something problematic tomorrow. I don't know.

Well, we'll find out next week. So if there's a show you would like us to watch, you can send your recommendations to us through our email. Are we there yet@gmail.com? Or reach out to us on Twitter or Instagram. Are we there yet? On both. You can find me at Mr. Patrick dugan on Twitter and Instagram.

You can find me on Instagram at Queen. Period Weebu, and on Twitter at Queen underscore weibo. I don't know if you want to give out your Twitter, tate.

I'll give out my Twitter. It's at tate. hollander. hollander. And I don't remember my Twitter or my Instagram, so I only post lego pictures.

There you go. You can find me on Twitter aBTS Brendan. That stands for Almost Better Than Silence, which is a video game podcast I record in about half an hour.

Sweet. Thank you to camille ruley for artwork, and thank you to Louis zong for theme song stories off the album Beats. You can find all of louie's music at Louisong bandcamp.com. Thank you, and we hope you'll join us next week as we learn to live with anime.

Watch this show. I'm sorry if you felt discouraged, but if you don't want to watch it, just listen to Move Mountains.

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