AWTY 131 - Amonganronpa (Talentless Nana)
Transcript
Hello and welcome to our weap There Yet in Exploration and education and anime. I'm your anime idiot, patrick dugan.
Speaker B:I am an anime expert, D hollander.
Speaker C:And I'm brenna mccullough. Your anime, Bailey hoskins. The worst X Men ever. Oh, that's actually the do.
Speaker B:What do they do?
Speaker A:I assume they are a real thing, but you have to elaborate for non X Men readers.
Speaker C:I'm going to get the authors. The author is in, like, a band. I want to say, like, the exact.
Speaker A:Details I was looking what did the author do? That wasn't the thing. We're asking you to explain.
Speaker C:You know, it's fair. Okay, it's fair. Anyway, it was like yeah, it was like a miniseries about the worst xmen ever. And his ability is he can explode and then he dies. Oh, he can only explode once and it's fade off. So they're just like, why are you an X Man?
Speaker B:I'm still a mutant.
Speaker C:Yeah, he gets tested by Professor X and they're like, congrats, you're a mutant. I don't want to be here. Cool. Your parents are dead already. Like, what? It's like, yeah, it's page seven. They're already dead.
Speaker B:What else do you have?
Speaker A:You already have a tragic backstory. There's no going back now.
Speaker C:The parents get crushed as they're walking out of the X mansion by a sentinel robot, like, immediately killed. And it's just like, wow, it's faster than the animal.
Speaker B:The poor man.
Speaker C:It's a good story, though. I mean, it's not for him, but it's a good comic.
Speaker B:Does he explode and die at the end?
Speaker C:I will tell.
Speaker B:No spoilers.
Speaker C:Anyway, anime, what are we here?
Speaker A:Yeah, what we have going on this week?
Speaker B:This week we are watching a show called Talentless Nana, which I had heard about in a video online, and I thought the plot seemed very compelling. And it's also, like, brand new. It Aired October to December 2020 Real new then. Yeah. So it's been a few months since the first season ended. I don't know if there's going to be another season, but brand new for.
Speaker C:Me is like, within the last five years.
Speaker B:Yeah, we watched skate B infinity, and that's literally still airing, but we didn't.
Speaker C:Talk about how fresh it is, how dope funky fresh.
Speaker B:Feels weird to do fresh things.
Speaker A:Speaking of which, update, I have watched the most recent dubbed episode, so I'm sticking with it.
Speaker C:Oh, good.
Speaker A:It's a mission. I guess if it was really a mission, I'd watch the subs, but here I am.
Speaker B:My brother tate, who's been on, he started watching it, too, and he really likes it as well. But that's not what we're here for. We're here for a talentless child named Nana, but not the one we already know.
Speaker A:Yeah, not that talentless Nana. A different talentless, Nana.
Speaker B:Yeah. Have either of you heard of this?
Speaker C:No. It's new. It's foreign and strange to me, honestly.
Speaker A:Once we I saw the title, I was like, is there a sequel series. Oh, no, it's too recent.
Speaker C:Why would you do that?
Speaker B:Those who haven't healed, it's Nana and nana's Child, which they also named Nana.
Speaker A:Why? Too recent for Brendan, too anime for me. So going in with no knowledge, but yeah. How many episodes is this season?
Speaker B:Either twelve or 13. So it's a shorty.
Speaker C:Got you watch the shorties.
Speaker B:I'm tall.
Speaker A:Call back.
Speaker C:That Comedy Central series.
Speaker A:Yeah, we're all pretty tall.
Speaker B:It's a reference. It's a reference.
Speaker C:Literally everything I say, it was just animated. It was essentially the rogue grass watching stando comedians and then giving feedback on it. It was weird. I don't know why they did that, but hey, that was something.
Speaker B:Excellent.
Speaker C:Well, we don't know who the show is. We're fluffing.
Speaker B:Yeah, I'm excited to get into this because there's a twist and that's why I'm compelled.
Speaker C:Maybe she's not so talentless after all.
Speaker B:Have to watch and see.
Speaker A:Pink is us. Pink. sas. Pink. sass. pinks us. pinks us.
Speaker B:What? No, it's not me. I saw them by the I was with White the whole time.
Speaker C:I saw them by the number and the bar at the top didn't go up.
Speaker B:Well, that's it. That's the show.
Speaker A:That's it. That's all you need.
Speaker C:Quickest round.
Speaker A:That was our full recap.
Speaker B:I loved mungus. dugan called this exactly what it is among us. ropa.
Speaker C:The one and only that I have for episode one is just my hero. academia meets dongan. ropa.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'll say, like, yeah. Hidden enemy. They set it up right at the top. We'll get into it, but the twist of how they did it got me. So I was like, oh, okay. Interesting. Better than I thought it was going to be.
Speaker B:Great.
Speaker A:Neat.
Speaker B:Let's go. So, yes, we start off, we see a mysterious person on an island. And their order is to kill the enemies of humanity.
Speaker A:Oh hoo.
Speaker B:And this island is a superhero school. We were introduced to the character Nana Nano. Not Nana. Nana.
Speaker C:This is also another Nana show.
Speaker A:Yeah, there are two.
Speaker B:Great. So he started going to this school six months ago. He doesn't really have friends. This big bald kid comes up to him and makes fun of him for reading a comic book. And he's like, oh, I did your homework for you, big bald kid. And then a handsome oh, big bald kid burns up the note, the comic book. And then a handsome ice boy tells him to be nice. The ice boy and the fire boy. butt headsunk.
Speaker A:Also, this is about 30 seconds into the show all of this information. So I was just immediately caught whiplash of like, yeah, they set up like, here we are. Dynamics. Dynamics. Dynamics. I was like, oh, no.
Speaker B:This first episode is a lot. There's a lot of information all the time in all three episodes. But this one especially because they're establishing everything.
Speaker C:Yeah, I like that when the bald kid takes a combook and burns it. The fire goes out and the cold combo is just ashy and charred. And then the beachy ice boy takes it and freezes it. There's no reason to.
Speaker B:That was just icy.
Speaker C:Once I saw that kids had powers, I was like, he's going to rewind the book and fix it or something. No, it's just ice now. Why? Why did you do this?
Speaker B:So the reason Nano gets made fun of is because he's talentless. He doesn't have a power. So these kids are here to train, to kill enemies of humanity, which are big, powerful monsters, and they got to use their powers to protect everyone.
Speaker C:Well, I can't take election.
Speaker B:Yeah. What? I'm so distracted. Someone in my building just started running water. And that's like I'm like, hello. So a mysterious new student arrives. His name is kyoja, and he doesn't have to tell them his powers. And the teacher says he doesn't even know what it is. So this guy, he's mysterious. And then Nano says that when students have a super strong power, they tend to keep it a secret. Just then, another transfer student arrives.
Speaker A:What a busy day.
Speaker B:Yeah. Wow.
Speaker A:What a busy day for transfers on this secret island for superheroes.
Speaker B:Who to thunk again? Who to thunk?
Speaker C:Yeah. I don't know. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention. It wasn't established for me that it was like an isolated island, like school by itself. I was like, what do you mean transfer? How do you just stumble in? I'm like, I guess I had these powers. I didn't realize it.
Speaker A:Yeah, I was going to this other superhero school. My parents got a job at a different bank. So now we're here.
Speaker C:Now when the American kid gets transferred into hogwarts mid year.
Speaker B:Hello. So her name is Nana, and her power is mind reading. So she gets sat next to Nana and he gets really nervous. And she goes up to him and she's like, hey, do you get bullied? And he's like, huh? And she's like, oh, I'm sorry. I heard you thinking about it. And he's like, oh, it's not a big deal. You look like a fucking gleep.
Speaker A:You should I mean.
Speaker B:Do you get bullied? Because if you don't, I will bully you.
Speaker C:I will take on that role for you.
Speaker B:So the bald fire kid comes up and he's like, oh, yeah, nano must be an enemy of humanity because he's talentless even though he's at this school. Isn't that weird? And then Nana is like, I thought the enemies of humanity were monsters. And then Nana gets really excited, and he knows all this stuff about the enemies of humanity. So bald fire kid feels as though his point has been proven.
Speaker C:He's a nerd.
Speaker B:Yeah. So Nana calls him out and she's like, you just wanted to come over here and ask me out? And he's like, no.
Speaker C:What paca.
Speaker B:And when he was making fun of Nano, well, he keeps calling him the self appointed leader, so she's like, what's that about? But he doesn't say. And it's just in the middle of class. Time has passed a little bit, and Nana is talking to Nano, and she's just loudly talking to him in the middle of class. And the teacher is like, hey, stop that. And she's like, oh, I'm sorry. Well, didn't you want to talk about a class rep? And he's like, yes. Mind reader knows each other.
Speaker A:Guess I'll stop in the middle of this math equation, for instance. I guess.
Speaker B:So. He asks if there are, like, volunteers who wants to run, and a lot of students raise their hands, but Bald Kid and Ice Boy are most enthusiastic about it. And then Nana nominates Nana.
Speaker C:That's a tough sentence.
Speaker B:Yeah. And she's like, he's nice and smart. Why wouldn't he be class rep? He's just as good as anyone else. So he accepts the nomination. And then kyoja Mysterious Boy is like, hey, you guys should just duke it out for class rep. And then he leaves the room all angsty, like, just leaves in the middle of class?
Speaker C:I know I've been here for ten minutes, but fuck this. I'm gone.
Speaker A:Where are you going? We're on an island.
Speaker B:We can find you. Good luck, and let me get some backstory. Nano didn't have any friends growing up either. He was told by his father to aim for the top because he's dull.
Speaker C:That fucking line of like, you're a real dull, son. Maybe now you can shine at this music. I'm like, what an asshole.
Speaker B:So, yeah, his father tells him to be seen as a leader wherever he goes. So when he showed up to the superhero school, he was like, I'm going to be the leader here. I'm going to lead us all to victory. And all the kids are like, ha ha. idiot.
Speaker C:Calm down, Scott summers.
Speaker B:Yeah. So they leave class, and Nana is following him. And she's like, hey, can you give me a tour of the island? So they go to this little food place, and he explains that everything on the island is free because the state covers everything. And she's like, I know you're wondering why I'm following you. And he calls her weird. And she's like, yeah, aren't we all?
Speaker C:We have superpowers on an island for a reason.
Speaker B:And he asks her if she's ever insecure. And they talk about their lives changing after getting the red paper, which I assume is like an acceptance letter. They don't say exactly what it is. And then he asks what her power feels like. And she says she can hear people's fleeting thoughts. And she used to commute on a train, and that was a pain. So she has also always had trouble making friends. And they go to a place looking over the sea that is only protected by some flimsy rope. And she's like, you must not be talentless because you wouldn't get in here otherwise. And he's like, it's nothing special. And I don't tell people what my power is as a precaution because we're training for war and enemies of humanity have probably already infiltrated the island, so they shouldn't know everyone's powers.
Speaker C:I feel like the phrase enemy of humanity is like, half the script for the show.
Speaker B:Yeah, they say it a lot.
Speaker A:Also, I just love how just casually, like, yeah, we assume there are spies here, but why worry about it? I got to worry about the class election, not someone trying to murder me.
Speaker C:But what about prom.
Speaker B:Is tomorrow? So as they're discussing this, a big powerful wind comes by and Nana starts to fall. And then we see kyoja investigating Nana, and Nana in, like, the teacher's, like, class ledger thing. Yeah. So he's he's suspicious right now.
Speaker C:Was it Nana knows, like, in the book, even his, like, talent was like, question mark. Like, what do you mean? The teachers don't like, they're the teachers. They should absolutely know.
Speaker B:I think they just, like, don't have to disclose it, I guess, to everyone.
Speaker C:That's a bad.
Speaker A:I would assume just like, any normal person can be like, yeah, I want to be there. It's a secret, though. I never have to prove myself to you.
Speaker C:If you go back to, like, the xmen analogy, there's some kids who have power, like powers to warp reality when they speak. I would like to know that before I call on that kid in class. Like, it's a big deal.
Speaker B:So Nana saves Nana from falling, and he asks if she thinks that it was an enemy of humanity that might have done this. And then they're both embarrassed to be so close to each other. And then they go back to the dorms and she's like, I think you should be class rep because you're less arrogant than the rest of the students and you're just a nice guy. And she keeps calling him a leader, and he tells her to stop, and he's like, you're not my dad. Please stop. And she says she's ready to train hard and protect humanity. And then she's like, you idolize your father. And she's just like, all over the place. She just keeps saying things, and he gets mad at her, and he's like, oh, you're going to read my mind whether I want you to or not. And she's just like, I'm sorry, I can hear your sadness. And he explains that his dad made him come to the school to become a leader, but he feels like he doesn't belong. That's why everyone makes fun of him. And she's like, you can be a leader, though. You saved me without thinking. And then he's in his dorm and he's just upset that she's there. And then he has a flashback that it doesn't matter. His dad told him he did a good job and that shaped him. He craves that fatherly validation from my gun at once.
Speaker A:And I've been chasing that high ever since.
Speaker B:So Nana gives him his watch. He wears a watch, and he had left it at the food place, and it's so late, and he's like, wow, did she go back to find it just for me? And then it's the next day. An Iceboy and Bald Kid are physically fighting to be the class rep. Why.
Speaker C:Did he take the watch off while he ate? Was he afraid he would eat the watch?
Speaker B:Didn't want to get it dirty? I don't know.
Speaker C:Do you get your wrist? Of all the shit that happens in this show, that's like, at me. Like, why?
Speaker A:Got to get risk deep in these noodles?
Speaker C:Just smash your hand into the curry. Just shove it on your face, right? That's what everyone yeah.
Speaker B:So Nano has dropped out of the class rep. Like, election iceboy wins the fight, and Bald Kid gets very mad that he didn't win. And he hurls a huge fireball at everyone. And in the excitement, Nana unleashes his power, and it turns out his power is that he can neutralize other people's talents, which is a great how is power useless? That's not useless at all. But I guess because people didn't know. They just made fun of him for not having a power.
Speaker C:Or maybe if you grew up around people who didn't have powers, like, hey, I can't do my thing to you. So it's yeah, I don't know.
Speaker A:Yeah, because everyone's like, hey, show me your power. I physically cannot until you do something first.
Speaker B:Yeah. So after that, Nana and Nana are back on the cliff. You think she wouldn't want to go back there.
Speaker C:Real close to that rope.
Speaker A:But it's so romantic.
Speaker B:Oh, my goodness. Looking over the ocean.
Speaker A:They're the only ocean view on this island.
Speaker B:So they're pals now. And she's like, so is that like, all your power can do? And he's like, yeah. And I don't think it really works on people like you who have brain powers. But he says he's going to work on it to be able to fight better against the enemies. And he's like, oh, maybe if I touch you, actually, you won't be able to read my mind. So they hold hands, and she gets emotional, and she's like, oh, my God, it's quiet. I can't hear your thoughts. And he's like, why don't you guess what I'm thinking then? Like, all romantic. And she's like, okay. And then she throws him off the cliff.
Speaker C:Yeet.
Speaker B:Yeet. So he's like, holding onto the rope that broke yesterday when she fell off. And she gives a dramatic villain monologue, glowing red eyes. Yeah, her voice drops, so she's always a fun trope. And she says, this was so good to me. She says she singled him out as an outcast on that first day because he was pretending to read. He was not actually reading. He just cares so much about what other people think. And she could tell because of that. And I was like, that's so funny.
Speaker C:Why wasn't he reading? Like, why not be reading? It was like comic.
Speaker B:I don't know, but I just think that's so funny that she was just like, okay, got it. And she could just tell the kind of person he was from his actions and appearance. And she can't read minds. She's just good at observing. He calls her an enemy of humanity. But reveal the kids on the island are actually the enemies of humanity. And she says, especially you. You have the potential to lead them all. Can't have that. So she needed to know what his power was to know if she could kill him easily. And she could. So he falls and she looks at her phone and it says his name and that his potential kill count is 1 million people. So yeah, what a fun twist.
Speaker C:Just thing that's stuck in my crawl. I got crawls now. Deal with it. If his power is to stop other people's powers, and she is there to stop the people with powers, how is his kill potential so high? And wouldn't he be the greatest asset to have on their side?
Speaker A:Yeah, because thinking that too, he can't.
Speaker B:Surprised. I was surprised that he died one, because he's in the picture of the show, but it's just a red herring because his name is also Nana and you think, yeah, oh, maybe that's him. But I guess it's just to show that she is ruthless and she's just like, I'll kill fucking anybody. I'll kick my own ass, I don't care.
Speaker A:Yeah, but it's like, okay, I'm on an island where I have no powers. Wouldn't it be great if the guy who's already in love with me and is like my only friend, and I'm his only friend, so we are already a team. Wouldn't it be great to keep him around in case anyone gets suspicious and tries to kill me?
Speaker C:But if you're hunting werewolves and your buddies, King piccolo, who can destroy the moon at any time, that solves the werewolf problem. Like, you want that. That's what X Men Three is all about. It's not a great movie, but that's the whole plot of it.
Speaker A:But yeah, this twist, I was going in, I was like, okay, it's going to be like murder mystery. Who's the villain? It's among us. But then we got to here and I was like, oh, no, I'm playing hitman. This is hitman. Great. Awesome. Just a body, like finding all finding all the specific ways to kill everyone that is most ironic for their things. Perfect.
Speaker C:Great.
Speaker A:But yeah. So we pick up episode two. We get the backstory, the explanation of what's going on. So basically, many years ago, one day there were superheroes.
Speaker B:They came out. I'm coming.
Speaker C:It's my hero. academia. But it went bad.
Speaker A:Yes. Yeah, like every like snarky YouTube video suggests, yeah, just chaos everywhere. There's a superhero. It sucks to be a human in a superhero world because you're just constantly getting your cities destroyed. So the government was like, hey, can we use your powers for good? And all those superheroes were like, fuck you, revolt you and what army?
Speaker C:The army.
Speaker A:The army, yeah. So, yeah, there was, like, a five year war, and the humans finally won, but they were like, okay, here's what we'll do. We'll put all these superheroes on islands so we can train them for the inevitable, like alien invasion, blah, blah, blah. But secretly they're like, hey, no. What if these are just, like prisons where we can put them so they can't destroy our society, and then we slowly kill them one by one, but no one knows because it's a secret, like, quote unquote, military training facility.
Speaker B:What a fun prank.
Speaker A:And Nana is assigned to kill them all. So just like, a ruthless assassin in this teen girl. Perfect.
Speaker B:Great.
Speaker A:So back into class. It's the next day, and Fire Boy is like, hey, where did Nana go? He hasn't showed up. I guess he's out sick. And nan is playing innocent. Like, I don't know. We're just friends. I'm a spacey girl. So we see they're outside training on a log over a lake, just running across this big log. It's fine, but Ice Boy falls off. But as he lands, he's able to freeze the entire lake. And he's like, ha ha, look at me. I am an arrogant ice man. So man is like, oh, great, cool. Just let me make a mental note. He can freeze freeze large bites of water, ignoring physics. Great. Perfect.
Speaker C:Yeah, like, they make a note of, like, it he defied all physics by freezing, like, five meter deep of water. instantaneously motherfucking through a fireball. Yes. Like, yeah, they got power.
Speaker A:We know you are hunting superheroes. It's not your first time hunting superheroes, I assume. But nana's like, okay, mission story. Perfect. Got it. Let me tuck that into my notes. Cool. In the class, she's talking to the Ice Boy, and she's like, oh, my God, you're so strong and powerful. I bet you can freeze me, right? And he's like, yeah, I can, definitely. And her using her deduction, she's like, you fucking liar. You only froze around the kid's foot yesterday when you were fighting. You can't actually freeze people. Cool. That's a weakness. Got it. Only freeze objects.
Speaker B:Cool.
Speaker A:So Fire Boy is mad because Nano apparently won the election. And he's like, no, I'm the strongest. I'm going to fight this random kid. But oh, freeze frame. He fell on the floor. What happened? We got a time travel, boy who cares about his name? He won't be around long. We got time travel, boy. But he stood up and was like, no, I'm the strongest because I can undo anything. And nana's like, oh, he can undo anything. He's the next to go. Perfect.
Speaker B:He's the only one who could probably figure out what I did. Time to die.
Speaker A:So they go to lunch. Nana follows this boy. He's eating. He's super like all of these heroes. I do love that they are genuinely like, yeah, everyone here has superpowers their cocky as fuck. They are the most arrogant people you will ever meet. Because they all fucking suck.
Speaker C:Makes sense.
Speaker A:So she's talking to this guy, trying to figure out what happens. She's just trying to poke all the holes, find all the weaknesses. So she accidentally, quote, unquote, spill some water on him. But the next second, later, the cup is back and he's dry.
Speaker C:Sink wetty.
Speaker A:Yes. And he's all out of breath. So he's basically his actual power is he can go back and change like a single event. He can't actually stop time and move freely or independently. He can basically do control V, undo something. That's about it. So they're talking and white haired kid comes in and he's asking questions. And he's like, oh, what? where's this nano kid? Is he really sick? I'm his roommate. And he didn't come home last night, so he didn't just over sleep. He's missing. So nana's like, okay, close, he's on. Let's do. So he starts asking her questions because very not suspiciously, she's the last person to see him. And everyone seems to know that, but doesn't question it. Cool.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:She's just so sweet. How could it possibly be pink?
Speaker A:No, she girl. Only boys are evil.
Speaker C:Did she know that?
Speaker A:But yeah. So he starts questioning her and is like rubbing her hair like his sister. It's a weird moment. We'll unpack that later.
Speaker C:This is the only note I have. rubs it too. I'm like, this dude's fondling her pigtails. Like he's checking for testicular cancer, stopping her pigtail. And I'm just like, that's the weirdest way to hold them.
Speaker A:Also the weirdest way to describe it.
Speaker C:Thank you.
Speaker A:So she's like, okay, he seems to be suspicious, so let me start changing the narrative. And she's like, oh, yeah, we were talking about how there's enemies on the island and what if they're here? What if they're one of you? Any of us could be an enemy, but not me. I'm a sweet girl. Starts changing the narrative to be like, white hair boy, you're also new and suspicious. Interesting. So he leaves and convinces time travel boy that they should investigate because kylie, the white hair boy is too suspicious because he was asking questions.
Speaker B:Yeah. And she claims she heard another voice in his head.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker A:She's using her fake mind reader to be like, oh, yes. I can throw suspicion on anyone because no one can confirm if I'm lying or not. It's great. The perfect cover. So they go to investigate. They go back to the dorms, and Timeboy goes back in time and comes back all exhausting. He's like, okay, confirmed he did not come home last night. So he is legitimately missing. So nana's like, oh, that's so interesting. Tell me more about how you went back and other weaknesses and limitations you have. So he's like, okay, I can only go back. I'm only strong enough to go back within the last 24 hours. Anything over 12 hours ago. I am so tired. I might throw up on reentry. Cool. And also, if I go back and anyone sees me, if anyone knows that I'm messing with time, I immediately get sent back. Okay, cool. Perfect. So they start to follow her trail of Nana was the only one to see him last, so let's follow her footsteps. So they start going out in the woods, and he keeps checking, and he keeps coming back exhausted. And they finally go to the cliff's edge, and he's like, okay, I'm going to go back and check. Do you remember what time you saw each other? Also, it is a little suspicious. What are you doing out here? Nothing. You'll find out.
Speaker B:We were holding hands. So embarrassing.
Speaker A:I'm not allowed to like a boy. And she witnessed him, so she says, okay, yeah, 06:00. That was the last time I saw so he goes back, and that is the moment they were holding hands. So he's like, okay. She's embarrassed because feelings, I get it.
Speaker C:I relate.
Speaker A:But going back, she's able to rewrite her memory. She was in murder mode, so she's like, okay, I was able to sense that someone was there, so I sent him back before he could see me murder because I'm a trained killer. So I'm actually going to check my surroundings before I kill. Cool. Perfect. That works out. So doesn't see anything, so they leave it for the night. And he's like, okay, that's about I want to figure this out within the 24 hours window. Okay, yeah. Who cares about the nerd that we all bullied and hated?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:So they part ways. She's like, okay, I figured out how I'm going to do it. My trap. It's time. So we see her messing around, digging holes and stuff like that. And then later that night, she runs to his dorm, and it's like, no, I have to tell you the truth. I'm just a dumb girl. So I kept this vital secret that we were chased by the enemy.
Speaker B:Like, what a thing to keep from him.
Speaker A:I didn't want you to worry that there's a murderer on the island. The thing we're investigating to confirm. So he's like, you stupid girl. Okay, let's go investigate. I'm the big hero, and I'll save you.
Speaker C:Stupid. Good.
Speaker A:So they go out into the woods. They get to a spot, and she's like, okay, this is where we parted ways. This exact spot. You see that X that I'm having to stand on? Stay right there. Now, can you go back and see what happened at this time? So he's like, okay, perfect. And he goes back in. Time, but he doesn't come back. Quantum Leap listener, can you solve the mystery? You have 30 seconds. But yeah, so what she did, the spot that they were standing on, it looks like an average dirt spot, but she covered up the ice that was frozen that morning. So when he went back in time, he fell in the lake. And because he's always so out of breath once he travels somewhere, he immediately fell in the water, inhaled it all, and drowned. So then oh, what if the body washes up? Well, that morning after he drowned that night explaining time travel. Okay, that morning after he died, iceboy arrogantly froze the lake to show off. So body frozen under the lake, never going to be found. Perfect. At least until it thaws. But everyone's probably going to be dead at that point. Perfect. Cool.
Speaker B:Great.
Speaker A:So another another person who can potentially get in her way dead. Awesome. Two down. Cool to go.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:We just see her killing people in her class. But this is a school, right?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:We don't get a sense of, like, how many people are here. It seems to be like twelve people, but that also seems like a waste of resources.
Speaker B:Yeah, this seems like a challenge for her.
Speaker C:It's an anime. Anyone not inside the immediate class of the protagonist does not matter.
Speaker B:They'll never figure it out anyway.
Speaker C:Yeah. So we get episode three. I like the transition we're going through on this podcast of D knowing the actual names of the character, dugan knowing most of them, and me actively choosing not to use them. So get ready for this.
Speaker B:There are two main characters of this episode.
Speaker C:That's me. I'm not using their name.
Speaker B:One of them is the name of the show. One of them is the day.
Speaker C:I've already taken my notes. So episode three starts off with todoroki investigating the broken rope over to cliffside. He's the angsty white hair boy, the new transfer student. Listen, you're going to be mad.
Speaker B:I accept that you're going to be mad.
Speaker C:It's just going to get worse. And he's looking at the cliff to see what happened when deku jumped off or disappeared. And deku is accurate, and he's assuming we see him, he also jumps down the cliff. So I guess he's not dead. Could that be a weird point of just episode three of, like, hey, this interesting character, he just kills himself. He's just dead now. And I'm guessing if he's not dead, dick, he's probably not dead. That's just my speculation. We won't find out. Then we get the opening. Pretty standard anime opening. We come back and it's raining at school that day, and people are starting to notice that some of the students are missing. Like, hey, Deck has been gone for two days and Time Travel Boy has been gone for one day. Isn't that weird? Since we all live on this island and no one's bothered to check in on them anyway, and they just keep going on with their lives. Considering it's an island with a limited number of people, I feel like it'd be pretty fucking obvious when one person goes missing. But I'm doing all right. Then we see beachy Ice Boy. Try flirting with madoka magica. And she looks blessing. I can like you.
Speaker B:I feel like this is harder, probably.
Speaker A:Yeah. Now, intentionally complicated.
Speaker B:Her name is the name of the show, all right?
Speaker C:Ice Boys floating with talentless.
Speaker A:And she says, you have to at least say Nana. That one is unexcusable for you to dance around. I repeat I've been saying Nana. That's fine. You can say that. You can say some American bullshit like me. You're not banana. Yeah. Call her banana. Give her the nickname. That makes sense. So it still works.
Speaker C:Listen. But document made sense to me and.
Speaker A:Only twice as long and more complicated.
Speaker C:Ice boys flirting with Nana. And she's trying to look for an excuse to get out of this. And she notices another girl, and she's like, hey, don't flirt in front of your girlfriend. He's like, how'd you know we were dating? And then I want to see tadaroki angsty white hair. Boy walks back in and he says, ah, it's clear that you two are dating because half of you is wet from the rain. And then the other half of her is wet from the rain. So it's clear that you two shared an umbrella. Anyway, I'm also here, and he sits down and he has seaweed in his hair.
Speaker B:I am also wet, so clearly I've been in the rain. And nothing else.
Speaker C:Nothing else. Don't worry about it. And then we see. Later that day, Nana tries to have lunch with him, and he's not having it because he's angsty loner. He does his own thing. So she follows him anyway and sees what he does. On his lunch break. We see him get a can of milk from the vending machine, goes to a shed, it turns out, like the janitor's closet or something. For some reason, it's a different part of the school. He goes inside of the shed and then comes back out. And she runs in after him to see what he did. And she sees a bowl of warm milk on the floor, and a cat comes up and eats it. Don't give your test milk. They don't do well dairy.
Speaker B:It's common misconception.
Speaker C:Yeah. And she's like, oh, he's feeding a stray cat, all right? And then runs into him later in the hallway, says like, oh, yeah, by the way, you've had seaweed in your hair, like, all day and no one's told you? He's like, oh, thank you. We should be friends. She's like, yes, he's on to me. He's also the only one that seems to be aware of what's going on. So she's highly suspicious of him coming after her. And he's like, yeah, let's be friends. We can go back to my room after school. He's like, okay. And they go back to this boy. He's very meticulous in how he behaves and his investigations. So he figured he'd have a very clean, cleanly room. Now he's a garbage boy. They go back to his room. It's just full of full of crap. He got mango all over the bookshelves. Just got, like, random swords. He got old retro games. It's clothes everywhere on the ground. It's like, Jesus. Okay. So they start playing a game. While they're playing, he's talking about like she's like, why did you bring me back? Why did you want to be friends all of sudden? A, he's like, well, you're popular. I'm not great with new people, so I figure that's you since you're popular and also new, like, I am so trying to figure out whatever trick you use to meet with people. And she says, he's intimidating and a low key F boy. That's a fuck boy. Apparently. This is others. Thankfully, he's also confused by this young hit, newt lang.
Speaker B:I love finding out about him, because he does in the first two episodes, he seems like he would be able to be on par with Nana in his investigative skills, but then it turns out he's just kind of an idiot. He's not street smart. He doesn't know anything.
Speaker A:I was going into this like he's playing her. He is so on to her. It's crazy. But she should be aware of that. She's like, okay, he's the only person that's on to me. He's the only person who seems to be asking questions. Let me let my guard down around him at all times.
Speaker C:Yeah. So he says, what's an F boy? And she says, he's intimidating around girls and gives off a dom five. I was like, that's weird to see in an anime. And she asked him why. Yeah. He's like, oh, that's interesting. Let me write that down. And he writes it down a little notebook. It's like, yeah, this guy is kind of an idiot in some parts. But she asked why he's so interested in deku's disappearance.
Speaker B:That's fine.
Speaker C:And she's like, why do you care so much that this one classmate just disappeared for two days? And it's kind of like, why the fuck aren't you? It's amazing how lazy fair they are with just someone disappearing in their class on an island. And he says, well, my sister went to school here. She was talented like all of us, and she also disappeared, and no one really seems to give a shit about why or how. So I'm here to try and figure out what's going on and see if you can figure out what happened to her. And he says how odd the school is with the disappearances, and it's on a remote island and they're supposed to be training the people with superpowers, but it feels just like a regular high school and not like a military boot camp like you would expect it to be. And while he's talking, she sees a mango on the shelf and she's like, that's my favorite manga. And it's like, oh, really? I like it too. It's about a girl who's really sweet and charming, but also has to do this specific mission where she has to kill her friends and allies. That's why I love it. And it's like, that's just you dumb idiot.
Speaker B:You are just you.
Speaker A:You are. Hands eating him, everything.
Speaker C:It's like, what a specific instance of a story being exactly my life? Okay?
Speaker B:I just find it so relatable.
Speaker C:What did you say?
Speaker B:Nothing.
Speaker A:We all have dark secrets, right?
Speaker C:I just think it's neat. So they relayed over that, and as she's leaving, she pulls out decades watch and is like, hey, look what I found. She's like, oh, fuck. He's like, let's go talk about the night he disappeared on the cliff side, making their way to the cliff side. And I really just thought she was going to push him off too, because I'm like, why do you got to talk about it at the cliff and not just in the dorm room? And yeah, he's asking about more details about that night. And she's like, oh, well, we're hanging out by the cliff, and then I left. And he's like, interesting. What time did she leave? She's like, six. He's like, huh? Because the watch broke at precisely 06:10 p.m.. So that must have been shortly after you left. Do you know what happened? And she's like, no. He said he's also doing the Charlotte deduced. Every little microscopic detail that could possibly be conceived. And he's like, it's a very expensive watch for a boy to have. It couldn't have been his. It must have been a gift from someone he cared about. And if it was something he cared about, he wouldn't want it being damaged like this. So he must have left it behind as a clue for someone to find in case something happened to him. I was like, oh my God, it's just fucking so much information. And I feel like you could get to it a lot quicker. And not to suggest that it might have been the enemy that attacked him. There is enemy to humanity somewhere on this island that we super confirmed now that we didn't. But everyone just agrees that it's there. And he says, well, I was going to tell the school officials, but they wouldn't believe me, so I need someone popular to tell them with me. I don't know why school officials should care about how popular a kid is for the credibility, but okay.
Speaker B:Do you have friends? No.
Speaker C:Get the fuck out of here.
Speaker A:Students have been missing for days. But you smell weird.
Speaker C:You're kind of a nerd.
Speaker A:You do have a bowl cut, so I can't trust anything you say.
Speaker C:There's a known sign of a liar. So he says he's trying to talk to her so she can come with him, to talk to the school officials with him. And as a token of goodwill, she asked for him to tell her what his power is. And he goes, you can read mines. You should know what it is. She's like, he right.
Speaker A:Wink the thing I can do. Yes, right.
Speaker C:It's been definitely two days. I've already forgot my cover. So the next morning she's in her bed looking at a phone and with the potential kill count of him. And it's all unknown, which is weird. And then we get a flashback to her talking to the council. That's just what I'm calling them. And they're saying they have all their information and all the kids with talents and the potential kills that they could do with their abilities. And they're all just wildly speculating because apparently every kid can kill just thousands and thousands of people.
Speaker B:And it's like and also, all of these kids will definitely be evil.
Speaker C:They're super going to do it. Even though the one kid's powers don't work, specifically not on humans with no powers, but he can kill, all right. And for some reason, this kid's not in their database. They don't have any information on them. So it's suspicious. In the flashback, the council saying like, yeah, we've tried to kill these superhumans before, but our best bet is letting them go to school, hit around mid teenage years, and then send in one of our agents as a student to try and kill them as well. Instead of killing them as babies or the second their powers emerge or something simpler, something we could build an anime.
Speaker B:Around that's too evil. You got to keep a secret on an island.
Speaker A:But we can't merchandise that.
Speaker C:That same day, we see them go to the teacher and tell them about the enemy of humanity somewhere in the school. And they found the watch. And he said, like, oh boy, I don't know about that. That's going to be pretty tricky there. teacher's a fucking idiot. And he said there's no outside communication to the school whatsoever until graduation, which is fucking wild.
Speaker B:Not suspicious at all.
Speaker A:A lot of people, I think the staff would be like, weird. It's almost like they're setting us up to have everyone die here anyways. I have to plan my lesson plan for next.
Speaker C:Oh, boy. cursive it's like bna where it's like, yes, there's no outside information allowed whatsoever in this area. It's like, that's weird. I don't feel safe with that. So he ends up calling the facility members anyway just on like a landline phone. And after they have a meeting moody way here, boys like, facility ain't going to do shit anyway. They're dumb anyway. So I don't have high hopes that that will get us anywhere. But I was thinking about and nana's like, oh, I got to go to the bathroom by wait a minute. I wonder what's going to happen to that cat that deku was taken care of by and then runs off. bye. She is like, what's the right word? Just out of nowhere, she just brings it up and it disappears and cuts him off mid sentence of like, okay. She's just like definitely leaving the bait and then running just slapping the bait.
Speaker A:Down as hard as possible in front of him and bringing, like, fuck food and running away.
Speaker C:Scatter.
Speaker A:Just like dragging the fishing line that activates the trap behind her.
Speaker C:It's like actively throwing the bait at the fisher, trying to catch with it, just hitting it in the face. And so, of course, on his lunch break, we see him go defeat the cat, and she follows after him. And we get a little flashback of her staying outside of the shed, recapping when she was in his bedroom, saying, like, he had a very clean bathroom and he double bagged the trash and he had expiration date sticky notes on the produce he had on his desk. He either has a very bad or no sense of smell at all. All right, I guess, sure, he might just be weird to do those things, but yeah, let's just automatically assume he has no sense of smell. And it's worth noting because when he heats up the oh, yeah, we see him heat up the milk for the cat like he did before, but she actually secretly snuck into that shed and bled the gas line and let the whole place fill gas. So when he goes to heat up the milk, it explodes. Wow. Don't worry though. She has the cat. She's not a sociopath. She's just a child murderer.
Speaker A:This cat only has one on its kill list. It's not a threat to me.
Speaker C:She looks at her phone and says, billions. Oh, no. Fuck. And as she goes to check, she runs up to the chin and be like, oh, no. What happens? We see his body get flung out through the window because he jumped out and he's all badly burnt. She's like, oh, boy, I got to go get some water to help you. And as she goes to turn, he grabs her ankle and pulls her back. And he starts questioning her. It's like, why are you already here? How did you know? You yelled out my name before I even jumped out of the window. So how did you know I was in there? And as he's getting more suspicious and questioning her, we see the burns and the wounds on his body, like healing bit by bit. And he ends up standing back up and says, I was born without a sense of smell. That just happened. There's nothing special about that. That's a weird coincidence. My talent, though, is I'm invincible. Convenient.
Speaker B:Well.
Speaker C:My invincibility comes at a small price, but I'm going to keep that secret. But I'm thinking about it right now. So you, as an obvious outspoken mind reader know what that small price is.
Speaker B:And also my good good friend and.
Speaker C:My good dear friend. bye. And he just walks away. And I'm like, what? Like, he pretty much just, like, slapped it down. I'm like, I'm onto your shit, and here's my power. See you.
Speaker B:Yeah, well, he doesn't have to feel threatened by her. Like, what can she do?
Speaker C:Figure out what that small price is and stop his powers reeling. I would still be skeptical. And, yeah, he says he's glad they're friends and walks away. That's episode three.
Speaker B:Yeah. I would say, even though she is, like, pretty good, I think it's easy to see in this episode especially, that she can be sloppy. Like, if she doesn't know everything.
Speaker A:Yeah. Honestly, she's still a teenager. That did start to slip my enjoyment of it, of, like, me a dumb idiot. I'm poking holes in your plan. This clearly trained detective that you're up against also knows what you're doing. But just for plot reasons, they aren't acknowledging that they know what you're doing. So it's like it kind of felt uneven in this episode of, like, are you actually, like, a skilled assassin, or are you flailing like you seem to be?
Speaker C:I think it's her getting cocky of like, this will definitely kill him. It's like, it won't. You don't know what his powers are. And then it doesn't kill him. It's like see? Shit, you got cocky.
Speaker B:Yeah. Well, how's it going? How are we feeling?
Speaker C:Are we there yet?
Speaker A:Yeah, this was a real roller coaster because, like, first five minutes, I was like, everyone's an arrogant, my hero academia rip off. I don't like it. Then it was like, okay, clearly they're setting up, like, a murder mystery. All right, we'll see how it goes. But not a fan. We got to the twist, and it's like, okay, so it's not a murder mystery in that we are trying to figure out who's the killer. We are following. The killer as they kill it is hitman perfect. Great. I was literally playing it before I started watching this show, so I am on board.
Speaker C:You're in that mindset.
Speaker A:So I'm like, yes, just clever ways to kill superheroes. Perfect. This sounds delightful. So episode two, we got, like, competent assassin, and I was like, awesome, great. This is going well. Then episode three, we start to see those slips, and it's like, okay, so I don't know. I feel like White Hair Boy was, like, weirdly written where my reading of everything he was doing was like, yeah, say something. I know it's. You like, fuck around and find out, sort of. But the way the story handles it is also mostly like, yeah, he doesn't know, so I'm like but so clearly, it's written to be threatening of, like, I'm on to you, motherfucker. I'm on to you. But narratively, they're also saying, but he's not on to you. It's fine. So I don't know. It wasn't well handled. The question of the mind games of is he onto me or does he want me to think he's onto me? That sort of aspect of it wasn't super clear and it sort of just felt muddled and messy rather than, like, actual espionage, if that makes sense.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think him assuming that he doesn't know that she doesn't read minds, so that's part of him being like, I can't be 100% sure that you actually knew it was me in there, or if you could read my mind and you came to save me because you heard I was in trouble. So I think that's just him. Who knows? It probably is just they didn't write it very well. But I feel like that is just him being like I can't be 100% sure.
Speaker A:Yeah. Because at the beginning of this episode, like, him coming in and being like, yeah, let me deduce the rain thing. Oh, yeah. Weird non mind readers can also figure this out. hints Nana hint. I thought that was pretty clear of like, yeah, he's on to the fact that she's most likely not a mind reader.
Speaker C:He's also a sherlock level detective. And perception, it's the problem with a lot of stuff where you have a character where it's like, this character has 1000 iq, but the writers creating that character do not, so they're going to mess up sometimes. So it's like, shouldn't that character have known that? Yes, but it still is being written by someone who doesn't have 1000 iq.
Speaker B:Yeah. I like this plot a lot. I think the premise is really interesting and even though we were talking about this, even though it is like super wordy and it's not like everything matters either, but it also doesn't feel I like it because it's her literally figuring out how she's going to kill somebody. And I think that's interesting.
Speaker C:She's trying to get as much information as she can so it makes sense versus just someone doing a monologue for absolutely no reason.
Speaker B:Yeah. In the first episode, it was rough because it was a lot of Nana O just being like, this is my backstory. And that's because they're trying to make us think that he's the main character, but he's not, and then he dies. So but beyond that, episodes two and three, I think that's interesting to be hearing her thought processes and figuring things out. But yeah, it's just not perfectly written.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:My biggest fear is that if we're in episode three of we're like a third of the way there, it's going to just continue getting more and more complex and complicated. So if they're already starting to slip, I'm worried how things will be handled down the road when it's like, okay, we set up these factions where I'm trying to set up that this person thinks that this person is the murderer, but secretly I'm going back. I know it's going to go down that road and if they're already slipping, I don't really trust them to do it.
Speaker C:Well, yeah, but he knows that I know that he knows that I know that he knows that I know I'll do this. So I did the opposite of that. It's like, you lost me at four. I knows. Ago. Yeah.
Speaker B:And that's why also while watching this, I was like, this is like kaguya sama.
Speaker C:Yeah, there you go.
Speaker B:But not silly.
Speaker C:I had a real murder mystery, cat and mouse detective, like Death Note sort of vibe to it. When Light and L are going back and forth, I'm just like the difference is I don't give a shit about any of these characters. Because right away when they introduce everyone, I was like, ah, they're just the token superhero kids with powers. Like, everyone's very much like a character of like, this trope and this trope and this Trope. And I was like, man, I don't care about any of these characters. And then when the twist happens, I was like, ah, they don't want you to care about these characters because they're going to kill them off one by one. So I'm like, great, a big cast of characters I don't give a shit about. Two main characters I don't give a shit about. So I'm just kind of.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's.
Speaker C:An interesting idea, but the wordiness kind of got me and stopped me in my tracks of like, I didn't need this. It's so dense. It's so fucking dense. Yeah.
Speaker B:I think our problem also is that we have to take notes on it.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker A:So we're trying to chart out a murder mystery rather than enjoying it.
Speaker B:Yeah. I think if I weren't taking notes on the first episode, I would have been more excited moving on.
Speaker C:But yeah.
Speaker B:Woof.
Speaker A:But yeah, it probably in a premise that is better than its execution is where I'm sort of feeling yeah, I agree with that. But yeah. What we have going on next week, what are we are we keeping murder themes rolling?
Speaker C:I murder punching. I don't know. But I I was going to say I kind of hope not, but I kind of do. that'd be interesting. So next week is my pick. I'm out of parole. I'm back in the system, baby. I get to choose again. I'm redeeming myself with a show.
Speaker A:Are you, though?
Speaker C:I am redeeming myself with a show called, umu, masumi Pretty Derby.
Speaker B:I know what it is. I know what it is. And I'm excited. But I'm also not excited at all.
Speaker A:Yeah, we'll unpack that next week. I have a week to pretend I don't know ignorant bliss for the listeners.
Speaker C:I put this on the list. Neither of them trusted me and immediately looked up what the show was.
Speaker A:We have to if we go into these, like completely oblivious, our souls are.
Speaker C:Just going to wither too overwhelmed. Here's my redemption show. It's going to be bad for me. It's also going to be bad for you, but it'll also be bad for me. That's the redemption part of it.
Speaker B:It's bad for everyone.
Speaker C:It's bad for all of us.
Speaker A:Mutually shared destruction. Yes. Well, if there's a show you would like us to destroy in your eyes, you can send us your recommendations. Our email is arwibariat@gmail.com. Or you can reach out to us on Twitter or Instagram at areweebeveret on both. You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Mr. Patrick Dugan and listen to my fiction podcast echoed location.
Speaker B:You can find me on Instagram at honey. Period d on Twitter at honey d eight and honey D art or on twitch at honey D. And Honey is spelled H-U-N-N-I-E. You can find me on Twitter at abts.
Speaker C:Brendan that stands for Almost Better Than Silence, which is the video game podcast I also do. It's a lot less convoluted than Murder mysteries. It's downright stupid as hell.
Speaker A:Thank you to camille ruley for her artwork, and thank you to Louis zong for a theme song stories. You can find all of louie's music at Louisong bamcamp.com. Thank you, and we hope you'll join us next week as we learn to live with anime.
Speaker B:Knives out is a good film.
Speaker C:It is.
Speaker B:It's a good movie.
Speaker A:Thank you.
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