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AWTY 133 - Anti-Ginta Gang (Marmalade Boy)

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Speaker A:

You overeat and get diarrhea or something. That's gross.

Speaker B:

Hello and welcome to our week very in exploration and education and anime. I'm your anime idiot, patrick dugan.

Speaker A:

I'm an anime expert, dee hollander.

Speaker C:

And I'm brenda mccullough. Your anime. Vegemite lad.

Speaker B:

Come from downunda.

Speaker C:

It is excessively salty, much like no bitter.

Speaker A:

I feel like I've never heard good things about vegemite or marmite, but people still eat them, so I'll say it right now.

Speaker B:

I couldn't tell you what marmite is.

Speaker A:

I don't know either.

Speaker C:

I've heard of that. I'm not exactly familiar what it is. I've had vegemite before. I had that in like, 6th grade once in school. It is imagine, like, a beef broth with a lot of carrots and onions and beef stock. Now imagine you just, like, ripped up in a whole pint of salt and just poured the entire thing in. And now it's a paste, like peanut butter. And that's vegemite.

Speaker B:

Oh, no, it's not good.

Speaker C:

No, I didn't you're supposed to have in small quantities, but even that I had it in school. My teacher was like, you have to promise not to spit it up in the trash can right away. And that's immediately what I did. She said, Brendan, you promise you wouldn't. I said, yeah, I lie about a lot of things.

Speaker A:

I'm a child. What can you expect?

Speaker C:

This is your mistake.

Speaker B:

You don't need to spit it anywhere else.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Why are we talking about strange condiments?

Speaker B:

Saturday on condiments on the mine. Because we got a show. I don't know if you know this, but we watch anime on this show sometimes.

Speaker C:

I thought this was a sports one. I got it. Oh, boy.

Speaker B:

But, yeah, we got a show this week. This is a recommendation from At Ribbonquest on Twitter. We're watching a 90s show, marmalade Boy.

Speaker A:

Marmalade boy.

Speaker C:

Don't know much about marmalade. Don't know a ton about boys.

Speaker A:

I know one thing about marmalade and it is that paddington Bear loves marmalade.

Speaker C:

But we don't know what marmalade is. So he might have a very bad addiction to something serious.

Speaker A:

I do know what marmalade is because he makes it in the films. And from what I've heard yeah, he.

Speaker B:

Knocks it in prison. Correct.

Speaker A:

In the second one, he makes it in prison wide. Highest rated movie on rotten Tomatoes of all time. And if you haven't seen it, you should watch it.

Speaker B:

I need to finally just do it. I'm always just like, I need to save it because I hear it's so pure, it's so good. We are so off topic of anime because we don't want to but I.

Speaker A:

Don'T know anything about this show. I want to talk about paddington.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I'm waiting to pull the rip cord on paddington, is what I'm trying to say.

Speaker A:

They're really hard to find, but Paul and I have both of them on bluray if you want us to bring them next week, we could watch them.

Speaker B:

That would be great. That would be excellent.

Speaker A:

They're both very good. And you'll see me cry because I always cry in the second.

Speaker C:

It's so mind boggling to me that paddington Two has, like, a perfect score with literally everyone.

Speaker A:

It's 250 reviews.

Speaker C:

It doesn't make sense. And part of me kind of doesn't want to watch it just to keep this mythical unicorn of a movie. Like, I don't know what it is, but it's apparently God and printed on the film. Like, you have a revelation.

Speaker A:

You should watch it.

Speaker C:

I'll try it.

Speaker A:

But anyway, I don't think marmalade is actually good because it's orange jelly, but it's got, like the rind in it and stuff. So it's like, really bitter. Also. ooh, I don't want to try it because I don't like orange anyway.

Speaker C:

But interesting.

Speaker A:

Weirdo. paddington.

Speaker B:

Well, he's a bear, but already we're shitting on paddington.

Speaker A:

I think he's got strange tastes is all.

Speaker C:

Yeah. I don't know anything about marley Boy.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I don't know anything. I know it's from 94, so wow. Some ancient texts we found.

Speaker C:

It's so old. Oh, wait. Oh, no. That's me.

Speaker A:

Younger than brenton.

Speaker C:

I thought about it because I looked it up. I've heard the name before. It's definitely like a popular series because I've heard it before just by not watching it. Yeah, I looked it up. It came out 94, and then the dub came out 2004. I was like, oh, ten year difference. I'm like, oh, so the dub is more recent. And I was like, Destiny, like 20 years ago.

Speaker A:

Feels bad every time.

Speaker C:

Feels real bad. Feels real bad. Yeah.

Speaker B:

So yeah. While we contemplate our own mortality, let's let's throw to a break, shall we? Yeah.

Speaker A:

People who were born in 2000 and 417 this year.

Speaker B:

Yay. Oh, my god. Are you guys ready to talk about boys?

Speaker A:

Oh, my god. Let's talk about boys and stuff.

Speaker C:

Boys and jams and jellies.

Speaker B:

Boys and polyamory, I guess.

Speaker A:

This was so interesting.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I had a feeling it was like looking it up and seeing what the dates were. When it came out, I was like, ah. It's like, oh, romance. I was like, yeah, that makes sense from what I've general idea I have of it. Not not this. Not what I not this was not prepared for that.

Speaker B:

Prepared. There are many types of videos that kind of have the same premise on the Internet, but we typically don't talk about those.

Speaker C:

Well, we talked about it one time. Yeah, those about one time we talked about.

Speaker B:

But yeah. Well, we're going to have some fun exploring some 90s dynamics that aged interestingly. So, yeah, we start out, we see our main character, Mickey. She's talking about not having a boyfriend at the start a junior year and wants to show true love. So, yeah, we're first off, just the 90s aesthetics. Just so good. 90s romance anime. The light is so soft. The palette is so pink and gentle.

Speaker C:

A lot of pastels. Lot of pastel.

Speaker B:

So her parents call her down to have some tea because they have to have a talk. So a lot of this episode is just explaining the dynamic because it's so out there that it is. They just lie 22 minutes to just lay it all out.

Speaker C:

So my first note was when she's called down, I'm like, oh, both parents are in the show and alive. This is a unique anime. I was not prepared for what happened next.

Speaker B:

Just you by their second sentence. Hey, daughter, let's have a talk. We are getting divorced, which we never.

Speaker A:

Really see in anime. So that's interesting enough.

Speaker C:

That's interesting.

Speaker B:

Yeah, very interesting. Already off the bat. We can stop there. Super interesting. Let's explore it. Hang on.

Speaker C:

Okay.

Speaker B:

The reason they're getting divorced because they've just drifted apart a little bit. That's like 20% of it. But 80% of it is. They just got back from vacation in Hawaii where they fell in love with another couple. The husband was like, hey, sick wife you got there. Mind if we trade? And the wives were like, hey, sick husband you got there. Mind if we trade? So they met a couple and were like, hey, no. Let's just flip flop.

Speaker A:

Very interesting.

Speaker B:

So already so interesting.

Speaker C:

Swingers in my 94 anime, it's more likely than yeah.

Speaker A:

I was like, oh my god, they're swingers. And then I was like, well, but they're just getting divorced and remarried. But then what happens later? I don't know. They probably are just swingers.

Speaker B:

Yeah. This will keep unfolding for the next 20 minutes. I'm just going to try to go chronologically. But naturally Mickey is like, hey, what the fuck?

Speaker C:

Understandably.

Speaker B:

You are so calm. There was no warning. You've been back from vacation for a little bit, so why did it take so long? But she goes to school and starts unpacking with her friend Mako.

Speaker A:

Mako, I think.

Speaker B:

Or mako?

Speaker C:

Yes.

Speaker B:

And she's like, oh, yeah, that seems kind of cool. And she's like, what the fuck? No.

Speaker C:

So fucking weird. Everyone's chill with this.

Speaker B:

But her friends like, oh, well, at least they're doing it in a healthy way. My parents are just cheating on each other and fucking miserable and fight all the time. And it's the worst. But they don't want to have the stigma of being divorced, so they just keep going through it. So this is just so fucking heavy. So immediately with the lightest, gentlest aesthetic of this late 90s anime, damn, make it up.

Speaker C:

Do you work at an airport? Because you unloaded that baggage real fast. You got that off the card.

Speaker B:

I just imagine her keeping that inside and being like, I hope just something fucking wild about a friend's family comes out so I can just unleash this.

Speaker C:

She's got a one up her friend micky every time.

Speaker B:

Yeah, she's just keeping it in her back pocket of like, you think you got a healthy dynamic.

Speaker C:

I'm just waiting for this.

Speaker B:

We see a boy come up. This is ginta. There's history here. Just you wait.

Speaker C:

But.

Speaker B:

He comes up and is like, hey, hey, we're in the tennis club together. Want to come hang out? And mickey's like, hey, no, I'm not feeling great. I'm probably going to skip out. I'm not feeling up to tennis today because my parents told me they want to fuck other people. So of course he's like, oh, you got diarrhea.

Speaker C:

Cool.

Speaker B:

Great.

Speaker C:

Excellent. He says, you overeat and get diarrhea or something. Class act. What a fucking charmer.

Speaker A:

That is actually what he says in the Japanese as well.

Speaker C:

Really? I thought that was without playing font.

Speaker A:

No, that's a real translation.

Speaker C:

This guy. Love it. Love this ass. Absolute idiot.

Speaker B:

So good. Very excited for love triangles to develop with this classy, man.

Speaker C:

A little classy.

Speaker B:

But she's skipping out. She's going to go meet the family. They're all going to a restaurant because let's take this dynamic public.

Speaker C:

I was scared about this. I got to worry.

Speaker B:

So yeah. So they go to the restaurant, and the new parents seem nice, but they have a son as well who's running late. And Mickey is like, oh, great, cool. I'll have someone on my side. Naturally, another child in the same situation is going to have the same dynamic as me. But then this blonde beauty comes in. This is you. And he's so pretty. He's so gorgeous. She's in love immediately.

Speaker C:

The color palette actually shifts when he comes on screen. That's how hot he is.

Speaker B:

Yes, she gets dyed hair for a couple of frames, but yeah. So he comes in and is like, hey, this is weird, right? You're also against it? And he's like, no, I'm chill. She's like, whatever. Am I the only one who thinks this is weird? Like, we're being ripped away from our families. I'm not going to see one of my parents. And then they're like, oh, hang on. We didn't tell you.

Speaker C:

You activated my second trap card. Yes.

Speaker B:

Take even more psychic damage. So instead of splitting up the families and just trading places that we're all going to move into the same big house. Six of us hanging out under the same roof. So you all have access to the same amount of your parents. Plus more neat, man.

Speaker C:

Your mom lets you have two dads.

Speaker B:

Mom, can I have new dad? No, we have new dad at home.

Speaker C:

But he doesn't want you anymore.

Speaker A:

This is what makes me think that they are fully swinging, because it's not like they don't like each other anymore. They even say they still love each other. They're just not passionate about each other anymore. But living together in the same house, who knows if like, yeah, that passion may reignite.

Speaker B:

Yeah. They talk about like, yes, we're planning to divorce and then remarry. But it's very clear. It's like, hey, no, this is just a 90s depiction of a polyamorous relationship that I was not prepared for.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

Hey, mom. Hey, new mom, how come there's plastic all over the furniture?

Speaker A:

Don't worry about it, son.

Speaker B:

Why is pretty derby on the screen? Sorry, I had to unpacking a lot here today. Okay.

Speaker C:

I love at the dinner how excited the parents are, where Mickey is like, I guess we're doing this. We're like, yay, we did it. These parents, I think in a later episode, Mickey, they're just very self serving. I think Mickey even points out a later episode. She's like, you guys went on vacation without me? I'm like, what the fuck?

Speaker B:

You aren't welcome at the swinger's retreat. 21 and over.

Speaker C:

That's definitely where they went.

Speaker A:

That is 100% where they got to be.

Speaker C:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Only thing that makes sense, she gives up the fight because she's the only one who's against it. She's like, whatever. So we jump to them living in the house. The parents are now divorced and love some good sexism. There's a lawn Japan that women can't remarry for six months after they're divorced. So they're in this weird limbo period where everyone just has to chill out. So they're settling in. You and Mickey go to the store and she's like, all right, yeah, I'll give in. Even though it's weird and just establishing, like, yeah, we're in this together. Let us be friends. It's uncomfortable, but whatever. We're just going with the flow. And then he puts gum in her hand. Whatever. There's so much to unpack with just the revelation of the family dynamic that a lot of the other conflict in the show just feels weak and not worth mentioning.

Speaker C:

Yeah, he's a little, like, prankster. He's a little rap scallion. It's like, I'm still recovering from the.

Speaker A:

First scene in this first episode, especially because it's really focused on this. The other two, not so much.

Speaker B:

Yeah, it turns into just regular high school romance dynamics with a twist. But yeah. So they go to school. She's talking with Mako, and she's like, okay, you're the only friend who knows. I'm not going to mention it because no one else at the school needs to hear what's going on. It's just you and me. Except, of course, you just transferred to the school. Transfer student check.

Speaker C:

Sure.

Speaker B:

So he's there now, and since he's so chill with it, he's going to tell the world about the weird family dynamic. So she's trying to keep it under wraps. So ginta comes out again, and he's like, hey, do you want to play some tennis? And she's like, oh, fuck. God, yes.

Speaker C:

Everyone wants to play so bad.

Speaker B:

So as they go run away, Mako and you are talking, and she's like, hey, what's up with those two? And she's like, oh, yeah. So in middle school, Mickey was super into him, but he rejected her. So there's some weird dynamics happening there too. No one is safe from romantic bullshit in the show. So later on they meet back up you, and Mickey teacher gives him his transfer paperwork and seems to know about the situation, but doesn't really actually acknowledge it. But mickey's like, hey, what clubs are you going to join? This is much less interesting than the stuff we've established. He's like, I'm a rebel. I don't do clubs because I'm too focused on my polyamorous family.

Speaker C:

It takes my full concentration.

Speaker B:

Yeah, we're almost through this. But every plot point, I'm just going to have to bring it back to that because you just can't forget that this is lingering over the head of everything that happens. So he asks about the old library on campus. And they make it seem like it's cursed or something. I don't know.

Speaker C:

It's detached from the school. It's like isolated on the school ground by itself.

Speaker B:

Yes, we have seen this in horror shows where it's like, yes, that's where the ghosts live.

Speaker A:

It's a separate school building.

Speaker B:

There's some weird old books in there and it kind of gets dropped. So we get a montage of her in like, gym class, watching him be cool and good at sports and all that stuff. Just like, I'm in love with my step brother. And she gets hit in the face with a basketball and passes out.

Speaker C:

Hunk.

Speaker B:

So cool. Good stuff. She wakes up in the nurse's office super embarrassed. And you comes in. So she's like, no to embarrass. Got to pretend to be asleep. You comes in and kisses her step row, what are you doing.

Speaker C:

To be as blissfully ignorant as a 90s anime on the Rules of Consent, totally fine.

Speaker B:

With polyamorous relationships, but but this is one aspect of advanced sexuality we are not going to work with. But yeah, that's episode one. It's isn't this a great romp so far.

Speaker A:

I honestly am having a great time.

Speaker C:

I'm going to say it's not bad. It's definitely not what I was prepared for.

Speaker A:

It's different.

Speaker B:

Yeah. I thought I was like, okay, 90s romance. Okay, cool. This seems like something we would be into and then just so much extra stuff. I was not expecting that. Probably modern shows still wouldn't be like, yeah, polyamorous family. I can't stop saying it because I'm just so caught off guard that they're like, yes, this is the dynamic we're staking the show around.

Speaker C:

I saw that it was like 73 episodes in like, a movie. I was like, oh my god, there's a lot of this. I wonder what the story is. And in the first episode, it's like, got it. I can see how this is 80 episodes in the movie.

Speaker B:

Yeah. We need time to explore.

Speaker C:

Oh, boy. So as a tradition, we go to episode two. Starts off with Mickey asking herself what she's going to do. And then we get a flashback of the kiss in bed and then get the opening. And we get a pretty standard opening. We see her kissing you in the opening. So I'm guessing it works out.

Speaker A:

Spoiler.

Speaker B:

Come on.

Speaker C:

And we see her getting ready in the morning, and she's replaying the kiss back in her head over and over again, like she can't get out. And she's talking about how she kind of just ran home last night and then went up to her room and kind of skipped in her just so she wouldn't have to see you or her parents two times. The parents. So she's like, I just need space to figure this out. Just like, ran up to her room. So we see her go downstairs. She's getting ready to go to school and walks into the kitchen and sees all of her parents went to work already. And he was just sitting there reading the paper, which I watched the news as a kid or in high school. I sure shit wouldn't have been reading the paper.

Speaker A:

This is the 90s.

Speaker C:

That was just a weird image for me. I'm like, god, he looks like 20 years older immediately with that paper. So Mickey sits down and starts eating breakfast as his anime tradition. Her single piece of toast and nothing else.

Speaker A:

Very nutritious.

Speaker C:

And she asks for the apricot jam. And you looks and goes, well, we got those marmalade, so that's all we got. She's like, I don't like marmalade because it looks sweet, but on the inside, it's bitter. Hey, that's kind of like you. You're the marmalade boy. I was like, here it is.

Speaker B:

We found it.

Speaker A:

I was hoping they would never explain it.

Speaker C:

I was terrified they wouldn't because I'm like, I got to know what the fuck this title is about. It was bugging me, so I'm glad it's addressed early. And then he was like, oh, okay. That's the game we're playing here. You're spicy mustard because you're hot and spicy. I guess that's an insult because she takes it as one. So she gets mad and he just leaves. He did call her hot and spicy, though. I feel like his feelings are pretty clear. So at school, she's thinking about the kiss still, and she's kind of annoyed of how unaffected you seems to be, how he's just it doesn't seem to have affected him at all. And we just said, I'm going to be flip along between them. Do not correct me. Mako mako mako. Mako sees how Mickey is looking at you and then talks to ginta about how yeah, she's talking to Mickey. And then Mickey leaves. And then she starts talking to ginta about how he's very clearly jealous of you.

Speaker A:

It seems like Mako is like a shit stir, but she has instances of not being so. But it's moments like this where it seems like she's trying to, like, stir the pot.

Speaker C:

Yeah, she's she's definitely a more interesting, like, best friend character than a lot of, like, these romance or, like, slice of life shows we've seen. Because I don't know if she's necessarily stirring shit. I think she just has no tolerance for it because we seem like episode three, she's very quick to shut shit down. So I liked her. I like her much more of a personality than a lot of sidekicks.

Speaker A:

I was suspicious of her at this point is what I mean.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I can see that. So we see at lunch, everyone's in class, like, eating lunch at their desk, and there's an in school broadcast on the television. And today they're going to be talking to students about their love lives. I feel like that's wildly inappropriate for a school broadcast, but let's go with it.

Speaker B:

Why not? It's a romance anime. We're in love school.

Speaker C:

It feels like there wasn't, like, one teacher like, hey, wait a minute.

Speaker A:

That's not right.

Speaker C:

So sure enough, the person they interview first is you because he's the new hot boy. He's the transfer student. And there's just like a solid minute of all the characters reactions to you being on the TV and just girls screaming the whole time about how hot you is. So he's very popular, and the host of the broadcast ask him, hey, we got a theory that you got a girl already. We see you walking to school with this girl every day. What's going on between you two? And he's like, oh, well, it's very simple. We live in the same house. And then at that point, Mickey kicks open the door to the broadcast room. We're like, not today, and runs hovering outside, waiting. Yeah, she kicks open the door and grabs the mic. I'm like, no. What he meant to say is we don't live in the same house. We live in the same neighborhood. And our parents are both good friends, very good friends, like the best of friends.

Speaker B:

It's kind of, like scary how close they are sometimes.

Speaker C:

Like no strings attached sort of friends. Like lovers? No. And yeah, she just says, like, we just our parents know each other, so we spend a lot of time together. So we walk the same way to school. That's why we're always together. That's why we come to school together. We don't actually live together. That would be nonsense. And then like, pulls the mic away and tells you, like, hey, we don't need to tell people that our parents are together and like, whispering it to them. But clearly the host of the broadcast is also eavesdropping and hears it all. So he's like, ha ha, real cheeky. So your parents are good friends. And Mickey just starts beating the shit out of them. She can tell he eavesdropped, and it's like, good for her. So she stops the broadcast, and after that, quinta makes it clear he doesn't like you. He's not a fan of you. And some of the other girls that are hanging around them point out, like, I was a little jealous. So Mickey tells quinta that mickey tells the girls that were talking that quinta turned her down ages ago and then considers it. What? Then considers if they're right? What? Oh, then considers if what the girls were saying about kenta being jealous is right. So she's like, maybe quinta is jealous. And then later we see chemistry class. Mickey is remembering that back in a time when she had a crush on quinta, back when he was the hot shit she fell in love with. And I don't I didn't write down exactly what they said, but it's her and make a talking. And Mickey says, like, she likes gianta because he's like this, this, and this. And Mickey says, like, those aren't compliments. She's like, no, but that's why I love him. I was like, she likes a hymbo. I get it. She likes an idiot.

Speaker A:

I think. I mean, at least in the sub, it seems like the point was just that she likes everything about him, even his flaws. Yeah, she calls him pasty.

Speaker C:

Yeah, she's basically saying, like, yeah, I like everything about him. She's real puppy love. And so she writes him a love note expressing her feelings and slips it into his desk. And then she walks into a classroom, seeing that quinta gave the note to his buddies, and they're all reading it, laughing. They're like, Mickey, girl, he's so lame. We're guys. We don't love anything. And he's like, nah, she's just like one of the dudes. She's one of my bros. And Mickey overhears this and locks eyes with him and then runs off down an infinite staircase with big orchestral music playing.

Speaker B:

Attic descending to hell.

Speaker A:

Might as well.

Speaker C:

And we see her just, like, on a corner of, like, a street corner and just collapses and starts crying.

Speaker A:

Well, what I like is that she specifically says, I would have been fine if he just rejected me. I would have gotten over it. It's the fact that his friends read it. I am so embarrassed. And he made fun of me.

Speaker C:

Yeah, she says, I get that gita doesn't reciprocate the feelings of love, and that's fine. I can get past that. And I was like, yeah, good for her. Very mature.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I like that. She's like, I'm not upset about that. I'm upset about the other thing.

Speaker C:

And she's right to be. That was a dick move. And so the next day, gianta shows up to school with a very short haircut as a form of an apology question.

Speaker A:

More drama.

Speaker C:

Yeah. I don't know. So come back from the flashback back in present day. And that's why she's telling herself, keith can't be jealous. He turned her down. Like, he can't do that. And then at home, she's doing her homework and daydreaming daydreaming about you and the kiss, and then her new stepmom walks in like, hey, we got a cake downstairs. Like, oh, hell yeah. And she's like, oh, doing my homeworking. And it's like, oh, well, not your stepdad.

Speaker A:

My ex husband.

Speaker C:

I don't even know what her relationship to Mickey would be. It's not her dad. It's just this guy that she's looking at. Anyway, you're dad is pretty good with Matt. He can help you out with that. She's like, oh, okay. And goes downstairs and she sees her dad playing video games with you and then use dad's helping Mickey with her math homework. And then the moms are also there. I don't really know what they were doing. And then he was like, oh, you're all done with the homework? She's like, yeah, your dad was a good help. And he was like, cool, now I can just copy. And she's like, no. He's like, fine, I guess I'll do my homework. And then her dad's like, no, you got to teach me how to play this video game. It's like, that'll take forever to get you good at it. And they all laugh like, ha, we're having fun. This is a wholesome family. And vicky just all of a sudden goes, oh, fuck. And it runs out. She's like, I let my guard down.

Speaker A:

I wouldn't cooperate.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

She's like, I love too wholesome.

Speaker C:

We were having fun. It was working out together. I got to stop that. So she kind of like runs up to her room and freaks out. She's like, I let my guard down. Never again. And so the next morning, Mickey is leaving early. She's not having breakfast with the whole family. And her mom stops her and say, hey, what do you want for dinner? I'm going to bust down my cooking skills and make something big and nice. Fancy. And mickey's like, whatever, just don't push yourself too hard. And then runs off the tennis practice before, like sitting down with everyone. And her mom's kind of like, oh, shit. I want to make something nice.

Speaker B:

So you see, I should definitely push myself too hard.

Speaker C:

Go above and beyond. Got it. So you go to school and ends up watching her a tennis practice because he's a creep. No, not really. And then we just cut to the end of the day and we see Mickey is leaving school with some friends. And he swings by and pulls her side, like, hey, can you come with me and go shopping? She's like, I don't know. I kind of want to get all right, cool. And it just pulls her along, I guess, or will. And he's like, I want to shop for jewelry for birthday present for your mom, because it's your mom's birthday. And Mickey has a flashback of her, like kind of blowing her off her mom this morning. Like, if I make whatever, I don't care. She's like, oh, shit. oops, I already forgot my own mom's birthday. Not my new mom, my old mom. I should know that one. And she remembered that's why her mom wanted to cook for everyone tonight for a big party. And he says he wanted her help picking out jewelry. And since they'll. Be living together for the time being. They should probably celebrate her birthday together. Try and act like the family they are now. And Mickey thinks to herself, yu's existence became more prominent in her life, or so she feels. And I wrote that down because it was just a weird way to put it. And then they get back, they bought her mom's earrings, and they have a nice dinner. And later we see Mickey finds a book while she's still unpacking her stuff from moving in. And she's like, ah, this must be you's book. This got mixed up in my stuff by mistake. And then all of a sudden, a picture falls out of the book, and it's you with a teal hair bimbo with her arms wrapped around them, devastated. And that's episode two.

Speaker A:

The drama. The drama, yes, it continues, but also.

Speaker C:

There'S, like, no drama with the parents. Yeah, we got divorced, and now we're together and we're fucking happy as hell. This is great. It's like, oh, good for this.

Speaker B:

This is the healthiest dynamic ever depicted in television history.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I just want to see them playing like, badminton in the backyard altogether. Two teams of two. This is great. We love our lives. Oh, shit. Okay.

Speaker A:

So in the beginning of episode three, mickey is writing in her diary about the girl in the photo. And she's like, well, maybe he does have a girlfriend. Oh, wait, because I care so much about this, I might be in love with him, but that can't be right. No way.

Speaker C:

Real quick. She has a little robot. We see it throughout the show, and she's like, I don't know, maybe it's because and she hits a button on the robot, and it plays a recording back that says, because you're in love with him. And she's shocked. But she recorded herself saying, I was.

Speaker A:

Like, Mickey, you said it.

Speaker B:

You are being so dramatic right now.

Speaker C:

Why would you say that, Mr. Robot? It's your voice. What are you talking about?

Speaker A:

I did this. So she's a tennis practice, and she can't stop thinking about this girl, but she's like, I can't let it bother me. And then the teacher says she's doing great, and the club's doing great. He flirts with the other advisor, and Mickey is like, appreciating how nice they look together. And she thinks of you and the girl in the photo again. And then you comes up to the fence, and she's like, what are you doing here? And he's like, I came to see you in your tennis outfit. And she's like, what the hell? And he's like, I'm just kidding. And then he just leaves. I feel like that's a recurring thing. And then he does something to tease her and then just leave.

Speaker C:

Fun.

Speaker A:

And then there's like a dramatic shot of Ginta being like, I don't like him. You is in the library, and some guy with blue hair comes in and sits right next to him, even though the library is empty.

Speaker C:

Fucking powerful.

Speaker A:

He stares at him and you're like, what's up? And he's like, I'm interested in you. And then he was like, oh, I'm not gay. And he's like, oh, me neither. I'm just interested.

Speaker B:

I only want to kiss, but in.

Speaker C:

The straight way, not gay.

Speaker B:

Like how you kiss your homies homie kisses.

Speaker A:

So you is like, I got to get out of here. And the blue haired boy notices the book he's reading. And he's like, oh, we have that whole collection at home. Would you want to come see it? And then you was like, no, the library has it anyway by.

Speaker C:

Good night, sir.

Speaker A:

Will we ever see this blue hair boy again? Not in this episode, which is very unfortunate because I had fun with him.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I'm curious because we see him in the bumper in like the halfway point of the episode. So we see him a lot there. So he's definitely like a reoccurring. But the fact that when he's like, oh, I'm not interested in you either, but I do want you to come back to my house. I'm like, oh, he wants his skin. He wants to wear you skin. Like, oh my God, what are you up to, man?

Speaker A:

So you runs into mako on the way out and she's like, oh, something wrong. Or why why are you even here? I never see anyone else in the library. And she says that she likes it because it's quiet. And he says he likes the building itself. And they chat. They chat about her being in the literature club. And he's like, oh, I'd like to read your work sometime. And then she offers it to him, but she's like, 450, please. And he's like, no.

Speaker C:

Like girls hustling out there. Good for her.

Speaker A:

Yeah. And then Mickey is finishing at tennis and mako asks if she wants to walk home together. And they do. And she asks Mickey how everything's going and about the picture, because Mickey has told mako about the picture communication even between best friends. Refreshing wacky. And Mickey is like, yeah, I mean, it's all fine. Like, and what do I care if you has a girlfriend, whatever. And Mickey keeps talking about it. And then mako makes fun of her and she's like, it's clear that you do care. But Mickey insists that she doesn't. But he's just so mysterious. She doesn't know that much about him, like, what's going on? And then mako says goodbye and Mickey is like, you know her and you are very similar. I've known mako for a long time, but she's still a mystery to me.

Speaker C:

Is that what she said in the subtitled version?

Speaker A:

No, I watched this one.

Speaker C:

Okay. Because in dub yeah. I thought she said she's similar to you in the fact that they hide their true feelings or something like that. I was like, that's not a combination. Yeah, it's not a good thing.

Speaker A:

And then you're mom offers the two of them tickets to the wonderdog theme park.

Speaker C:

Great name.

Speaker A:

Yeah, because her company worked there or whatever. So he's like, hey Mickey, you free on Sunday? We should go together. And she's like, yeah, sure, whatever. And then she's like, wait, is this going to be a day? So it's Sunday, they're at wonderdog, they're having a good time, teasing each other and playing games.

Speaker C:

I was a little disappointed we didn't see the Wonder Dog mascot.

Speaker A:

I was kind of where's that guy?

Speaker B:

How did I bet it would single the word dog in front of me? Not pay it off?

Speaker C:

Rude.

Speaker A:

I bet it would look like the little dog from paranoia Agent.

Speaker C:

The big old head.

Speaker A:

Yeah. So he wins a toy for her out of a claw machine. And while he's doing that, Mickey is like, oh, I wish our relationship could be like this all the time. Like he's being so nice right now. And then he wins her the wrong toy. But it's a little CAPA plush. And she's like, that's not the one I wanted, but I love it.

Speaker C:

Hell yeah. Cap.

Speaker A:

This guy rules.

Speaker C:

She does look at it. I guess if I force myself, I can see that's. Cute.

Speaker A:

Yeah. And so they go to a mirror maze and Mickey just runs in. And then before you can, the girl with blue hair is there and she grabs his arm floorsy.

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker A:

Her name is arimi. Yeah. So this scene made me laugh really hard because it lasts so long and it's just, it's just Mickey like getting lost in the mirror maze. Like intercut with arimi talking to you.

Speaker C:

Having a good time outside and Mickey inside having a psychedelic freak out.

Speaker A:

Yeah. She's like running around child to Mars. She's like, I gotta get out of here.

Speaker C:

Like, have you guys ever been in the hall mirrors? Like you don't run into yourself as often as mega. She's running face first into the mirrors. Like if I see myself, I know to stop because that's the mirror. I don't have clothes. I know that.

Speaker A:

Yeah, so they're just like chatting about inconsequential shit and she's losing her mind in the mirror maze and she gets out and she sees you with arimi and he introduces her to Mickey and she's like very touchy with him. And Mickey doesn't like it, but not that she cares. baca baca. And then this guy calls after arimi. He's like, hey you, come in and you was like, oh, you got a boyfriend, that's great, I'm so happy for you. And she's like, yeah, but I'm going to dump him because I'd rather be with you. And then she leaves. How bold.

Speaker C:

Damn girl, calm down.

Speaker A:

For real. Because he's just like, dang it, this girl again. So he says that they went out briefly in 9th grade and he says that they did everything that couples do together. And Mickey immediately is like, everything, everything. But he just means that they were together, like over the holidays. So they did Christmas and valentine's Day together and stuff. And he's like, you were being nasty.

Speaker C:

You're a nasty little pervert, aren't you, Mickey?

Speaker A:

And she's like, what? No. And he's like, you want to know? We didn't do anything. He then says, My first kiss was with you, Mickey. And she's like, you're admitting it? And he's like, yeah, I knew you were awake because of the way you reacted to the smooch. And he teases her again and then says, I did it because I like you. And she thinks that him saying that is him making fun of her. So she slaps him and storms off. Back at school, mako and Ginta are in the hallway and they overhear girls talking about Mickey. And you'd date and Ginta gets upset. And this is the part where I was like, mako fucking rules. Because she like, stands up for Mickey. She was like, hey, when everything happened with you, Ginta in middle school, that really messed her up. And she was reluctant to like any boys after that. But now she likes you. And I'm very happy to see her moving on. And you have no right to butt in on this because you're not her boyfriend. And I was just like, wow, this is so good.

Speaker C:

I just wrote down, hell yeah, make her get his ass.

Speaker A:

Yeah. Like, sure, the dynamic between Mickey and you is weird, but I love this. Yeah, that she's like, hey, my best friend is happy after you ruined her for so long. So stay the fuck out of it.

Speaker B:

You had your chance and turned her off of romance for so long. And now that she finally jumps back in, you're like, oh, no, never mind. No, fuck you.

Speaker A:

Yeah, Ginta sucks.

Speaker C:

Get the fuck out of here. John dorian from scrubs.

Speaker A:

So it's after school and Mickey and gita are doing the classroom chores alone together. And she's writing down the attendance. And this part confused me. She was like, the only person not here today was suzuki. And I thought that maybe just the last name suzuki reminded her of arimi. But I wasn't sure if arimi actually went to the school because I would have thought that she would notice her.

Speaker C:

I thought it was just a similar last name.

Speaker A:

Yeah, that's what I maybe. But who knows? Maybe in the next episode she shows up at the school very busy.

Speaker B:

It was just an npc in my life until it was plot relevant to me.

Speaker A:

So she gets caught up in thinking about their relationship and then Ginta gets her attention again. And Mickey is eating a candy and they chat about it. They talk about the commercials. And it's called Kiss Candy. And the ads say that it's a flavor of a kiss.

Speaker B:

Great.

Speaker C:

So he asks, like, someone else's fit. Advertisement.

Speaker A:

Yeah. So he's like, you think that's true. And she thinks of you kissing her. And he is like, maybe we should find out. And she's just like, oh, he's just saying that to make me flustered. And then he'll make fun of me, so I'm going to get the leg up. I'm not going to let him do that. So she says, yeah, maybe we should. But then right after that, she's like, just kidding. You see, it's not nice to tease people and that he gets up and smooches her and she does not want to be kissed by him. So she pushes him away and slaps him across the face. And I was like, good for her. But you said it was okay. But that's not true because immediately after she said it, she was like, I'm kidding.

Speaker C:

Get his ass again.

Speaker A:

Megan did it anyway. Yeah. So she runs out and Ginta is, like, embarrassed about it. And I'm like, good. Fuck you. And she's like, why would he do that to me? This sucks.

Speaker C:

Revoking his himbo status. He does not respect women. That is a requirement.

Speaker A:

And that's episode three. The show's got a lot going on.

Speaker C:

Got a lot.

Speaker A:

I truthfully, I liked it.

Speaker C:

Are we there yet?

Speaker B:

Yeah. I feel like they set up so much interesting stuff in the first episode that when it just turned into just some regular love triangle stuff. I was like, there's so many cool dynamics we're not exploring here. If they started the show is the same for the second two episodes, but the first one takes place on a spaceship and then it just goes to Earth and it's like, are we not going to talk about the space travel that could be happening right now? And we're worried about their relationships when we could be, like, fighting in the stars. A thing you established is happening in the show. I sort of had that mentality of like, you can't you can't do cool shit and then have it only a quarter payoff throughout the rest of the episodes we see. So, like, I know this is a super long series. There's plenty of time to play around with it, but just high school romance drama after a bombshell of a weirdly progressive family dynamic is like, okay, but we could be exploring more interesting stuff. So it's not bad. They kind of just got my hopes up and didn't fully pay off on it, if that makes sense.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I like it because even though it is just a high school love triangle, we have a protagonist who's willing to stand up for herself and also a good friend who will also stand up for her. So I think, like we're saying, it's a very long show, so I think these episodes are just setting up everything. So I wouldn't be surprised if they explored more stuff with the family later on. But I feel like they're just making sure they're just like, this is everything that's happening. But I really like Mickey. I think she's a good character and I like it.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I didn't check off the unlikable main character on the bingo card. Also, bingo card, originally suggested by Ribbonquest, ties together nicely. I think it's because the interesting thing, or at least the interesting thing for us, is the relationship with the parents and what their situation, but the main character is their daughter, where the interesting thing is a side effect to her. She had no impact on it. She had no choice in the matter. So she's just dealing with the results of the interesting thing. So we're only going to see the results of the interesting thing. I'm sure there's going to be plenty of episodes where they're dealing with the parents or we're seeing the parents interact or their relationship explored further. But I don't think that'll ever be the main focus of the series. It's going to be focused on Mick.

Speaker A:

Which is unfortunate because it's interesting.

Speaker C:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

But I also hope later on that because it seems like their relationship, the four of them, is so healthy, I hope that they give her some good advice later on. They like, sit down with her and they're like, hey, love is tough sometimes.

Speaker C:

But then you but look at us. But then you won't have the weird, like, artificial drama of like, I think my dad might be cheating on my mom, but he's actually just buying her flowers. But they saw their dad talking to a strange woman in the city. And it's like, now it's going to be like, I think my dad's talking to another woman. It's like, yeah, he got two already. We set that up.

Speaker B:

There is healthy communication in a TV show about romance.

Speaker C:

Wild, unheard of. It's definitely the parents. And the relationship between the multiple sets of parents is definitely the very unique twist to this show, especially early on. But yeah, like dcep, I enjoyed the writing of the characters. mako and Mickey are actually pretty well written for teen romance characters or teen girls in a romance series. You is also written pretty well. But he's definitely written up like he's a little scamp. He's up to no good. But there are moments of dialogue where them talking like this feels well written and not like forced of like, hi Mickey, it's me, your friend, mako. Do you want to walk home together? That's like, oh, this is very rigid and stiff. My main hope is that Mickey doesn't fall in love with the teacher that we saw multiple times where the teacher doesn't fall in love with her because that definitely feels like that will happen. It's definitely common in this era of anime. So I'm just like, don't do that. If so great for them if they do. Oh boy. But yeah, I was pretty surprised by the writing in it overall. So yeah, that definitely caught my attention.

Speaker A:

Interesting stuff going on for a romcom made in 1994.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I can certainly see yeah.

Speaker B:

Ahead of its time. Holds up well. Very interesting, we'll say.

Speaker A:

Yeah. Overall.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Not I don't want to watch 73 episodes of it.

Speaker B:

Too much of a commitment, like, nearly 30 years down the road. But, yeah, this was interesting to pull at random last week.

Speaker C:

Yeah, that's for sure. I'll put this as yes because we've enjoyed it.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

But I don't know if we're ready to if it was like twelve or 13 upsets, hell, yeah, I finished this. But 70, that's a lot.

Speaker B:

Enjoyable, but too rich for my blood.

Speaker C:

Also, I think this is the first, maybe not the first case we've ever had it, but first in a long time of getting that technically not incest marked up on the bingo card and being accurate.

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker C:

Technically it's not.

Speaker A:

We don't like to talk about that.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Moving past that. Hey, what's going on next week?

Speaker A:

Next week we're watching a fun little slice of life thing that I've heard a lot about. We're going to watch the Daily Lives of High school Boys, which sounds like it could be gross and terrible, but I'm pretty sure it's not.

Speaker B:

I've lived those days. Not pleasant.

Speaker C:

Don't want to go back.

Speaker A:

Double checking the description. This one sounds like it could be pleasant, so we'll keep our fingers crossed.

Speaker C:

It's just an anime of a kid playing City of Heroes for 12 hours a day, like I did in high school.

Speaker B:

Just super into fallout New Vegas. Well, if there's a show you the listener would like us to watch, you can send your recommendations to us. Our email is rweebaria@gmail.com, or you can reach out to us on Twitter or Instagram at rweebariat on both. You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Mr. Patrick dugan and listen to my fiction podcast, echoed locations.

Speaker A:

You can find me on Instagram at honey D, on Twitter at honey d eight and Honey D art or on twitch at honey underscore D. And Honey is spelled H-U-N-N-I-E. You can find me.

Speaker C:

On Twitter at abcs. Brendan that stands for Almost Better Than Silence, which is a video game podcast I use to rant about binding of Isaac, because I have 700 hours in that game and I will we can't.

Speaker B:

Let give him a platform here. Quick outro. Thank you, Samuel ruley, for our artwork. Thank you to Louisong for our theme song stories. You can listen to all of louie's music at Louisong dot bandcamp.com. Thank you and we hope you'll join us next week as we learn to live with anime.

Speaker A:

Goodbye.

Speaker C:

Fuck gita.

Speaker B:

Yeah. Fuck ginta antiquita gang. Yes.

CW: Non-Consensual Kissing, Divorce

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