AWTY 75 - Monster Virgin (Kaguya-sama: Love is War)
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Hello and welcome. Or are we there yet in exploration and education and anime? I'm your anime idiot, patrick dugan.
Speaker B:I'm an anime expert, dana hollander.
Speaker C:And I'm brenda mccullough, your anime. Adam crolley here. Co host, anime loveline. Welcome to the show.
Speaker B:Is that a real thing?
Speaker C:It was back in, like, 96, I think it was in La.
Speaker B:Oh, it was a radio host.
Speaker C:Yeah, Adam crolley used to be online, like K Rock and stuff before I.
Speaker B:Want to know why that's in my recent memory, we're tangenting real fast talking with me.
Speaker C:Talking.
Speaker B:I watched the masked singer with my parents, and there was one person that they guessed was Adam corolla. It was not, but that's why I'm like, oh, yeah, him.
Speaker C:I feel like you could easily identify Adam Carol as the mast singer because he sounds like a yago from the movie aladdin.
Speaker B:You mean gilbert godfrey?
Speaker C:Yeah, I know. His voice is just very grady.
Speaker B:Did you know that he has a name? And it's not just iago.
Speaker C:I figured more people would know iago. I'm sorry. He was the principal from Problem Child.
Speaker A:Until he made some bad jokes about Japan. We're talking about today on topic. So what do we have going on?
Speaker B:Well, today the day that the podcast comes out is February 10, which is the valentine's Day episode.
Speaker C:I guess this makes more sense now.
Speaker B:So I decided to watch Kaguyasama. Love his war.
Speaker C:Oh, boy. Love a good war.
Speaker B:Yeah, Paul told me about it, and he said that he hasn't watched it, but he's heard good things.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:And he told me the plot. Like, I know the plot very vaguely, and I think it sounds fun.
Speaker A:I'm just imagining, like, Mrs. Smith vibes. Just armed combat, but romance, maybe that'd be fun. I haven't done a bullshit prediction in a while.
Speaker B:You haven't?
Speaker A:So, yeah, this is my prediction. It's an anime adaptation of the Brad Pittali.
Speaker B:May their marriage rest in peace.
Speaker C:God. Like, you know what? I wouldn't be surprised if they're just like, hey, remember this 2002 movie? What if we just redid it as an anime 20 years later? Like, someone's probably tried that pitch with all the doctor shit.
Speaker A:Probably. There's so many anime and so many just weird premises. It has to line up with a lot of movies.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Here's a fun game for our listeners. Find an anime and find an old movie from the early 2000s that have a very similar and share it with us on Twitter.
Speaker B:We look forward to your responses.
Speaker A:All no one?
Speaker B:Thanks, friends.
Speaker C:Yeah, I've heard a lot of talk about this. It's newer, right? Like, it came out last year, I think.
Speaker B:Yeah, I was looking at the dates it ended, I think in March of 2019.
Speaker C:Okay. Yeah. So we're pretty fresh. Yeah. And yeah, I kind of got a basic idea what the premise is, and then I've just seen memes spiral out of it, mostly of just the one character who isn't the main character, which has me a little concerned. The side character is the best part of the show. It's like, oh, that's not great.
Speaker A:I mean, we've enjoyed shows where the side character is the best character because we know chopper's doctrine. I couldn't tell you anything else about those manias.
Speaker C:Yeah, but what about brooke? He's the sad piano skeleton.
Speaker B:He was exactly point made. I love he's the best character I've ever seen in anything. And I love him.
Speaker C:Yeah, I tend to have strong feelings for beside characters. My hero academia episode of like, oh, there's this random dude in the bag with a dragon head. What's going on here? Don't worry. He's a background characteristic. No, but what's going on with him? I want to know.
Speaker B:My new dad.
Speaker C:There's one dude span off. Span up. There's one due. Just like a lego brick for a head in that shit. Anyway. Yeah, so I'm interested to see what all the hubbub was about. About this pink haired anime maker with a bow. See a lot of memes of her dancing.
Speaker B:Neat.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Well, all right.
Speaker A:Shall we find out for ourselves?
Speaker B:Yeah. We're going to watch the first three episodes.
Speaker C:Dig into the trenches with our affection, my love guns.
Speaker B:Boy.
Speaker A:Mr. spearson.
Speaker B:Plot. Please.
Speaker C:I'm so hungry.
Speaker A:Please, please.
Speaker C:You could you could have given me a thousand guesses. I wouldn't have expected that to be overturned. I'm not expecting Oliver Twist.
Speaker B:But that's the fun. It's unexpected.
Speaker C:Unexpected. No one wants to try oh, God.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:So it's it's Death Note, but with people who are in love with each other. So it's just Death Note? Yes.
Speaker A:Just kissing.
Speaker C:Death note. Yeah.
Speaker A:Except no kissing occurs. No, they refuse.
Speaker C:Kiss the baby.
Speaker B:That's inappropriate.
Speaker C:That's sinful, crude, scandalous. Not in my anime. Okay. I'll say right off the bat, the show goes real fast. There's a lot of talking, and there's like a narrator who talks faster all the time. And it's just like, our notes are going to be condensed.
Speaker B:The show goes hard.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:90% of the show takes place in the thought processes of two incels.
Speaker C:Oh, God. One note is great and fun to enjoy overthinking everything. Let's make an anime about it.
Speaker A:This is what high school is.
Speaker B:I want to talk about it later when I defend this. So I'll talk about it later when I defend it a little bit.
Speaker C:I feel like just as anxious people, at least for me, close at times of like, just stop thinking. Just fucking do the thing. All right, episode one. It starts with a guy confessing his feelings to a girl, and then we get a quick narrator talking about like, oh, love. And you confess your feelings and you get married. But no. Even in the most romantic high school sweetheart relationship, there's always a power dynamic. And anyone who falls in love and confesses in their feelings first is the loser. So just, like, establishing, like, hey, toxic relationship right off the bat. Not everything in competition.
Speaker A:This is the whipped noise, the anime.
Speaker C:So then we get the opening sequence, and it kind of reminded me of, like, a James Bond opening sequence and with, like, it fits in the tantrum music to it. I found myself watching it every episode. I was like, yeah, this ain't bad. I'm getting into this each time I watched it a little more.
Speaker A:Yeah, this opening credit sequence is what I wanted this show to be, and it did not open.
Speaker C:We've watched enough anime to know you cannot trust the opening or ending sequence to tell you anything about the show. So then we open up on a school, and it's a very lavish rich kid school for all the high upper classes. Basically a real or on five, but, like, much less colorful, which was disappointing.
Speaker A:Guillotine fodder the Academy.
Speaker B:Yes. Eat the rich.
Speaker C:God. We should make a bingo card for our show. And that's probably the free square. I feel like we say Eat the rich. And then we're seeing students walk around, and then we see the student council members walking up and everyone's just going nuts.
Speaker B:You know what I think? overpowered. I don't know if it made it onto our final bingo card, but overpowered Student Council? Like, we haven't had one of these in a long time.
Speaker C:In a good while. I mocked up, like, a five by five bingo card because I added overpowered Student Council on there and I used it for this show.
Speaker A:Oh, you could burn a hole in that one.
Speaker C:It's just the hole. And we get kagia, who is the main character because her name is in the title and she is just obscenely rich. Like, episode one and two both go into, like, a good, like, minute long description of, like, here's her family. They have trillions of yen, which is still like a trillion dollars. It was like 100 trillion. And she's the vice president of the student council. And then we get miyuki, who is the president of the student council, and he's kind of rich.
Speaker A:Question he's rich ish enough to go.
Speaker C:To the school, but then he's just, like, super academic. I don't know. I didn't get his stick.
Speaker A:Yeah, he is in the school because he has, like, perfect test scores. So he is like, the smartest kid in the school, not the richest, so he didn't have to buy his way in. He's the scholarship kid, basically.
Speaker B:Hey.
Speaker C:Got you.
Speaker B:That's like haruhi from oron High School Host Club.
Speaker C:The comparisons. The venn diagram is turning into a circle.
Speaker B:Except that Orange High School Host Club is better.
Speaker A:Weirdly, less toxic relationship considering ones about a Host Club.
Speaker C:So, yeah. overpowered student castle. They're treated like gods. Like, if someone threw themselves on the ground just to be stepped on by them, it wouldn't be out of the norm for this show, and apparently as they walk into the student council room, they shut the doors, and kagi says, like, oh, apparently there's a rumor going around about us dating. Isn't that novel?
Speaker B:Wouldn't that be weird? We dated.
Speaker C:That's silly. That's so stupid. We wouldn't do that concept daunty.
Speaker B:Unless.
Speaker C:We can't just throw everything. Hey, it works for my pocket. So, yeah, they're joking about, like, oh, there's this rumor that we're dating. It's like, oh, that's silly. We would never do that. Yeah. And they think, hooties, am I right?
Speaker B:Nasty.
Speaker C:And we get insights inside their head saying, like, I'm better than that. I would never date them. But maybe if they ask me, maybe they pleaded for me to go out with them. Maybe I'll consider it. It's only natural. If we spend enough time together, we'll naturally fall in love. You know how high schoolers think? And then it immediately goes like, all right, half a year later, nothing happens.
Speaker B:They didn't make us watch any of that, though, okay.
Speaker A:I mean, I assume it would have gone about the same if they didn't have that flash gourmet.
Speaker C:It would have been the same show. Yeah. I don't know if it added because I feel like they just wanted to say, now these characters have some history together, but we don't feel like showing it. And now they're already at another level of their relationship, flirting constantly with each other, and they just want to show.
Speaker A:The first six months where they're cold and distant. Let's flash forward six months where they're cold and distant.
Speaker C:Yeah. And then six months later, nothing of note happens. They start thinking about how to get each other to confess to them. So, like, the opening, whoever confesses their love first is the loser, and then they're in a relationship with a loser. I guess I don't get this. Just, like, immediately, a competition of who can confess to each other first and why that's such an important thing.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's sort of the power of who's giving in, who's the weaker will the person to let their emotions get the better of them because they're so cold and calculating and brilliant and geniuses.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's this is too high class for me. I don't fundamentally understand it as a poor peasant beggar.
Speaker A:The straits are added again.
Speaker B:The straits are added again.
Speaker A:The Anne.
Speaker C:Yeah. And meanwhile, chica. Is that how you pronounce it?
Speaker B:Yeah, it's chica. Chica from five nights at freddy's.
Speaker C:Okay. She's the student council secretary. She's also there. That's about as much character she has.
Speaker A:She's the fun one.
Speaker C:She's the fun one. She's the fun wine aunt. And she's there in the council room saying, like, oh, hey, guys, I got these tickets to this movie, but my parents don't like me going to these types of movies. They're sinful. So I'm offering them to you guys if you want to go to this movie. And when they're looking at the tickets, they're like, oh, this movie, it's a romantic movie. It's said that if a man and a woman go to this movie together, they're destined to be a couple.
Speaker A:It's like a marriage story.
Speaker C:Doesn'T collect it from the world. So mute is like, oh, well, yeah, free movie. I ain't super rich. I'll take a free movie pass. And it's like, well, I got a free weekend kanye if you want to. And then she got bumped buttons saying that if a man and when we go, there doesn't be a couple interrupting them. So because he already started asking kagia. And then Chica says that kagia gets all very smug and coy. And it's like, oh, you want to go to this movie and become a couple? Is this your way of asking me out? Oh, are you playing your hand, you dumb fool. You fell right into my love trap.
Speaker B:You big loser idiot. You like me.
Speaker C:I'm going to write your name in the love note box.
Speaker A:Nerd like me.
Speaker C:I would have really enjoyed the show if it was poor dumber kids doing that. We're just like, helly is fucking it. He's so in love with me. Versus the aristocratic high class of like, you played your hand, you foo. I would have enjoyed it like a dumb punk rock.
Speaker A:They build this as an anime, but I feel like a lot of the more comedic elements of these situations don't come in until the second or third episode. This first one, it just felt like a game of chess. We are battling our minds. This might as well be a debate club video. But yeah, if someone was just like, you fucking got a crush on me.
Speaker C:Dumb piece of shit. Like Phil and lil's parents from rugrats. Like, oh, I love them. coggy is very smug about it. I was like, oh, you idiot. You've already stuck your foot in your mouth by already asking you. And he's like, no, I don't believe that rumor is true. So do you want to go to the movies? It's like, wow, what a what a defense by just denying the rumor. Like, what a power play.
Speaker B:It's only a rumor. I don't know.
Speaker C:I don't know. He's like, do you want to go to the movies with me? Instead of, like, asking her out, now he's giving her to the choice. And like we said, they spend like a good, like four minutes discussing the dynamics of him giving her the choice. And now we can skip it. So she starts rambling in her head, talking about all the different variables and all the factors and how she set all of this up, how she bought the movie tickets, put them in, gave them the chica, and then knew that her parents weren't going to let her see the movie. So it's like she set all of this up and now it's being blown back in her face. And now she has to play her hand asking to go with him. And so she says she also doesn't believe in the rumors that you become a couple after seeing it. But if he's going to ask her out, she would like him to be more passionate about it, which that feels like she's already admitting to being like, I want to go, but you should ask me more passionately. I want more passion from you. So I feel like she already lost at this point.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:So while they're talking, after she says that, she can jump in and say, oh, hey, by the way, if that's a problem, I got these two other movies in this Bird movie. It's not romantic. No problem with that. What do you guys think? And they just, like, short circuit because they're they're doing so many calculations, so many factors. I'm like, oh, go to the Bird movie. We eat this and is it romantic? And they're just overthinking everything to, like, the nth degree. Yeah.
Speaker A:They're like, this is like a pixar movie. We can't get romantic in a children's fun cartoon.
Speaker C:We haven't been to the movies together.
Speaker A:Hey, we saw Cats and you didn't get horny there, so I doubt you're getting horny.
Speaker C:Hey, I mean like angry birds. The movie just, like, gets my gears going.
Speaker B:I don't want to know.
Speaker A:That triangle.
Speaker C:That triangle Bird got that dorito shit. So because they short circuit trying to think of all the possibilities, they expend so much energy just thinking within these, like, nanoseconds of time that they they crave sugar to reenergize themselves. But the only food in the room or within arm's reach is a single steamed bun sitting in the middle of the table, which is weird. Weird. So they both go diving for it to try and eat at first, to regain energy, to continue her calculations, to continue if they're going to ask each other on a date or not. And then Chica just snags the steam button and walks out. It's like, all right, I'm late for class for you guys. And I was like, now I get why everyone likes Chica. She's the best.
Speaker A:She's such the only good character on this show.
Speaker C:She fixed it. Breath of fresh air, so she's nice of food. And then we get, like, a little slate saying, like, the battle of the day. And they both lost because they never came with a strategy, and they both ran out of steam. So then we cut to the next day. kagia gets a letter interlocker asking her out by some anonymous admirer. And this starts freaking out miyuki. He's like, oh, I got another man moving in on my territory, even though it's not my territory, because then I'd lose if I claim to that territory. So he's imagining he's trying to think of, like, what guy could leave a note for her who thinks he's good enough for her? He's probably just some dumb, slob peasant person who's not good enough he's just as unnoticeable as like a weed. And then we get this little caricature of Mr. weed, like pop up. Like, hey, gaga, I want to go.
Speaker A:Out on a scene. I'm sorry. There are two good characters in this show.
Speaker C:Mr. weed.
Speaker B:Love him.
Speaker C:I love that mickey later, like, imagines them in the hallway and it's Mr. weed, but he's in a school uniform. I was like, god, what a good character. Just look at his design. It's so good.
Speaker B:It's perfect.
Speaker A:I knew my hero academia class is so good.
Speaker B:Mr. Reed, his powers have nothing to do with plants.
Speaker A:They're actually shoots fireballs, which you think would not be good for you.
Speaker C:There's like a gardening service back in Pennsylvania my parents use called weedman, which is very different out here in La. So turns out this is all a trick to get mikki to try and stop her from going on a date and inadvertently omitting his feelings for her by saying, like, no, you can't date him. You have to date me. So I think kagia wrote herself the letter. Is that what it's implying? Because I don't think we ever find out.
Speaker B:Yeah, I don't think she did.
Speaker C:Okay. But she's using it as like, okay.
Speaker A:Yeah, she does set up a lot of situations. But I don't think we got confirmation if she set this one up.
Speaker C:Yeah, because we do see in later episodes, these two characters are popular in the school. People do like them and stuff and would ask them out before and stuff. So not out of the realm of possibilities for someone else to be an admirer. So he says, oh, you can't go out on a date with some random strange trip through a letter. They were rude in the student council's reputation with such illicit affairs. He's like, you know what? To make sure this is all above the board, prim and proper, I'm going to run it by a teacher. And she's like, narc fucking tattletale adult.
Speaker A:In a high school anime.
Speaker C:No, never. Not possible.
Speaker B:Unless someone has a crush on the teacher, in which case fully or worse.
Speaker C:The teacher has a crush on the student. There's a few. Thank you. And kagi says like, well, if it's true love, I'll risk any punishment. I'll risk expulsion for true love. It's like, yo, it's like one day two. And miki says, like, well, maybe if he confesses his love, maybe he'll confess his feelings for the sake of argument. And she's like, he's going to confess his feelings? She's like, well, maybe you should just to see.
Speaker B:Let me just play devil's advocate.
Speaker A:He says, yeah, never a good sign. Never a good starting point.
Speaker C:And he says he calls her out, saying, like, oh, well, if your true love is swayed so easily that you might hear someone else's confession of love over this person's confession of love, it must not be true love because you want to hear my side argument rather than just being true to your secret Mirer right off the bat. And she gets, like, a hobby because he calls her out and catches her in her fuck up, I guess. So she goes to leave, and she just starts, like, freaking out, like crying over, like, no, don't leave. Don't abandon the Catholic kind of confessing her love to kagia jokingly and all over the top. So she stops her from leaving. But yeah, we get the end slate saying kagia lost the battle that day. And then we cut to the next day, and they're walking through the campus and they see a couple feeding each other, like giving each other a snack. And when they get back to the classroom, coghill starts, like, ranting a bit, saying, it's so improper and indecent to be showing public displays of affection at school. At this school in my country, never.
Speaker A:Are you married? I didn't think so.
Speaker B:This is a religious married people can do that.
Speaker C:I don't see a promise ring. You're not the jonas Brothers. And then we see. He breaks out his lunch. He's like, well, they're feeding each other for a lunchtime. I'm hungry. I'm going to whip out my lunch. My grandpa lives in the countryside, and he just sent us shit load of vegetables because he has a good harvest. So we see him put down the lunch and open up his bento box of food. And then we get a little garlic. Andre of his grandparents are just like, oh, I'm a yuki.
Speaker B:I love that little standing off to the side. Oh my God.
Speaker C:I realized with the show there's so many just, like, little things too quick, you won't catch them. But it's like, those are my favorite parts.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:So we just see them waving at him as he opens his lunch. And then as he does, kagi has in all of his lunch because it's one of those, like it's simple but beautiful, like lunches.
Speaker B:Well, I feel like I feel like the thing too. I feel this is like I feel this is relatable is like when you, like, have a certain kind of lunch all the time. And in her case, it's very healthy. She's rich, so she has chefs preparing it for her. But he has processed foods. I want that. Yeah. I never had a cosmic brownie in my lunch. And anytime I saw anyone else with a cosmic brownie, I was like, they're living the life, baby. And I feel like it was just that moment.
Speaker A:Oh, I was a cosmic brownie kid. If I wanted to trade, I could have anything.
Speaker C:I ruled the cafeteria.
Speaker A:I had all the resources.
Speaker B:I never even got dessert. I had peanut butter and jelly and goldfish pretty much every day.
Speaker C:I just slapped a ten dollar bill at the snack bar in the cafeteria. Was like, fuck me up.
Speaker B:Ten bags of baked hot cheetos, please.
Speaker C:Get two chocolate chip cookies and a soft pretzel.
Speaker A:I was on the wrestling team and had to maintain weight, so I'd have, like, two sandwiches and a bunch of bullshit. And it was great. I stopped wrestling and never readjusted my lunch, and that's why I'm fat today.
Speaker C:I saw it as cognitive saying, like, oh, his lunch was made with love from his parents. And that's why she was so enamored, because we see it, and it does look good. I checked it off for the delicious cartoon food, but of course, we got the other staple, which is little hot dogs made into octopuses.
Speaker B:Octopus weenies.
Speaker C:So it's just one of those staples. It just looks so good, like a good mom lunch.
Speaker A:So something made with love and not money.
Speaker B:Money.
Speaker C:Please. So she sees that. She's like, oh, shit, I want in on that stuff. I want that good shit. And she's like, but I can't ask for it because then I'll be confessing my feelings. Like, I want something from your life, from your home and all that. She goes into her real thinking about that, and then she could just pop up, and it's like, yo, octopus wieners. Let me in, brah.
Speaker A:Give me some of that, my dude.
Speaker C:My dude, my fill me up. And miki. He's like, yeah, sure. He gives her some of, like he gives her octopus hot dog, and then he gives her, like it was, like, cold rice, but then it was with, like, hot miso soup. And then the rice, I think, was cooked using green tea. Like, that's how it was, like, steamed. So they blended super well together. And chicas just, like, lose her mind off, like, yo, this shit is tight.
Speaker A:So good.
Speaker C:The more I talk about chicas, the more of a meme I'm turning her into. And, you know, I feel like she'd be fine with that. So she's, like, loving his lunch. You know, they're sharing lunches, and kagi is just losing her mind because she's like, I want that. Why can't that be me?
Speaker B:God, I wish that one.
Speaker C:And in her head, she's like, she is dead to me.
Speaker A:You're no longer cracked me up.
Speaker B:It's so funny to me.
Speaker C:And the whole time she's looking at them, she's got, like, this, like, deadpan, like, disgusted face. I'm like, how dare you betraying me? Our friendship. And miyuki sees that and sees her face, and she's like and he's like, she's looking down on my lunch. She thinks she's better than my lunch. I'll prove her wrong, and he starts just, like, sharing more with Chica. So then we cut to the next day, and Kakiya comes in with just this tackle box full of food of just a full ash lobster and all this other stuff. But the rich family paid the chefs to make it, so it's just kind of hollow. And chico remarks about how they're just talking, casually talking about just, like, octopus wieners are the best. It's like, we can say hot dogs just for peace's sake, but okay, shout out to octopus wieners. So you're just talking about, like, oh, man. Like, a simple lunch, like, made with love is just, like, the best thing. Better than anything else in the world. Better than kagi has big, dumb, expensive lot. Like, basically the mood they're trying to get across, like, they're not saying it, but kagia feels that way, so she's annoyed. She starts pushing her lunch more of like, miuri, don't you love oysters rockefeller with some champagne? And, you know, just super rich lottie DA food. And he thinks she's trying to pity him because saying his lunch is so poor that she can afford this high end stuff. So he refuses to trade lunches with her or, like, share food. She's like, man, I just want that octo weenie and please, please feed and made the hot dog, and I need it.
Speaker A:He'll give me a lie, please.
Speaker C:It sustains me. And she has chica about her lunch. She's like, all right, well, what do you got, chica? She's like, oh, muki was cool enough to make me a lunch when he made his. He's like, yeah, if you're making one lunch, two lunches isn't anything. So it was super easy to make. She just, like, slams her head. kagiya slams her head into the table out of, like, depression.
Speaker A:Just like the weight of it was.
Speaker B:Like it was so different than any other moment, like, that I've seen in anime. It felt heavy that she slammed her head down.
Speaker C:She gets like, Jesus, you okay? Like Christ. What happened? You're concerned about her because she hit her head so hard. And then after miki sees that, he like, starts, like, say, guessing everything and kind of gets freaked out. He's like, oh, you know what? I'm going to just cram this lunch and bolt and get the fuck out of here. So he just, like, runs off. And she can see kagia, like, super sad. And she offers her octopus hot dog because she's a friend. And kagia apologizes. He's like, I'm sorry. What I thought about you earlier. Like, thinking you weren't human. She's like, I am. What did you think I was before? What were you thinking about me? Because it was all in her head. So she never even heard any of it. kagia is depressed, but she technically wins because miyuki ran off. So she won that battle. But it feels like a loss for her. And then at the very ending, we get an ending in other episodes, but we don't get an ending in this one. So the credits are playing over a scene of kagia being undressed by her maid because just super friction, super snazzy. I'm mixing up words today. snazzy, rich, fancy, just all that snaps me. Snaps me. And she's being undressed by the maid. And she's kind of just lamenting about the day. And the maid kind of asks her. It's. Like, well, if someone else were to come up to Miyuki and confess their feelings to him, would you actually confess your feelings? Like, how far are you willing to go to not confess your feelings so much that you'd risk losing him to someone else? And kiki is kind of reluctant. She's like, no, if it came to that, of course I'd have to confess my feelings, not to lose them. But that's an extreme situation. And then we get a little glint in, like, the maid's eye of like so I feel like she's going to play a bigger part in later episodes that we haven't seen yet.
Speaker A:Not in these three. No servants, out of my line of sight.
Speaker C:Take my undergone it and be gone with you. And yeah, that's episode one.
Speaker A:All right, I'm going to pick up the pace because these next two episodes are basically the same. We start out literally with the same five minutes of the opening of Like Loves a War.
Speaker C:Ha ha.
Speaker A:Opening credits. She's rich and he's smart. And they're the student council. But they're at an assembly now, so it's sort of new information. So yeah, we go to them in their student council office. The miuki has gotten a new phone, and he's super cheap. So this is like a big step for him. This is his first smartphone. He had, like, an old flip phone forever because he's frugal. But he finally gave in and he's like, I can use the Line app because that's how all the cool teams are talking these days.
Speaker B:Well, that's actually is that real? Line is like a big thing in Japan.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's like, WhatsApp a lot of.
Speaker B:People with iphones use that none of us do because we're all Android users.
Speaker A:Suck it. Can eat my app.
Speaker C:Take that, eternal neck fuck. Yeah. I thought it was just a generic. Like it's an app name. I didn't know it was a real one. I thought it was going to turn them into magical girls like yuki yuna anyway.
Speaker A:But yeah. So the big conflict here is who's going to ask the other person for their phone number, their profile for Line.
Speaker C:App, get that digit.
Speaker A:So he's too proud to ask for her number, of course. And this was all her idea because she planted people on his route with cool new phones so he would want to finally give in and buy a smartphone. So the big ploy here is, since neither of them wants to ask, he makes his profile picture a very cute photo of him as a child. And he's showing chica and being like, oh, yeah, but I think I'm going to change it. It'll only be up for like, three minutes. Yeah, it's like, oh, fuck.
Speaker C:I want to see him as a baby.
Speaker A:Chubby cheeks, I'm guessing. Please, I got to get that cuteness. I feel like this could be used in many situations. And she just saved it for this one for whatever reason. But she has a bottle of that stuff that makes you cry that like actors use acid.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:Just battery acid.
Speaker A:Yeah, battery acid you put into a tupperware. So she puts it up to her eyes and she pretends she's crying. And she's like, I just feel so left out. And this is her ploy because oh, now that a woman is crying, of course he'll do whatever she says.
Speaker C:My mental.
Speaker A:Yeah. So he's like, oh, I'm sorry. I'll be here.
Speaker C:Here's this photo.
Speaker A:Just please chill. This cute little photo of him as a little baboo holding a snake. And of course, in that 2 seconds that she flashes it to him, she's like, Fuck you. I memorize your profile. I'm going to find you now. I can find you, but I didn't have to ask. I win. Fucking idiot.
Speaker B:Loser.
Speaker A:I'm going to send you so many poke requests.
Speaker C:I'm going to poke you so hard. Some farmville tedious friends was a mafia wars.
Speaker A:Yeah, I was trying to think that it was like, my mafia. No, that's not it.
Speaker C:My little mafia.
Speaker A:My little mafia. She's like, ha ha. Got you. And then she pulls out her phone. She also has an old phone, an old classic nokia and Chica like, oh, yeah, you can't get line app on that. It's too old.
Speaker C:It's super dated.
Speaker A:And Muki is like, you fucking rich, kid. Why are you doing this?
Speaker C:You're rich. You can afford any phone.
Speaker A:You want a phone, buy a gold plated phone. Buy Steve Jobs'old phone. Hire someone to dig it up from his brain.
Speaker B:He was buried with the first iteration of the iphone.
Speaker C:Make a phone out of his bones. Oh, my God, you metal a shit.
Speaker B:I think this is funny too, because it shows that she's like, out of touch. Yeah, she's like she doesn't have real friends or people to tell her.
Speaker C:Yeah, I guess she would things like that. She would have to have used it if she communicated with anyone else using it. So yeah, good point.
Speaker A:She has no friends. Fucking loser.
Speaker B:Fucking loser.
Speaker C:She said she has sentimental value to it. She's like, I've had it since kindergarten. I was like, what fucking parent gives a kindergartener a cell phone?
Speaker B:Someone with trillions of dollars.
Speaker C:I guess it's just like that's. Just asking for trouble.
Speaker A:If you need to call daddy to hire your nanny if you have trouble.
Speaker C:At school and you need me to buy it and fire everyone inside, please.
Speaker A:This boy has taken all the blocks I need to buy him from him.
Speaker B:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker C:Raise his family household to the ground. Destroy his bloodline. wipe it from the surface.
Speaker A:Frame him for murder even though he's six.
Speaker C:Yeah, I do like that Chica is like the good balance between these two. Because there's one line where he says, asking contact information of the opposite sex is as good as confessing your love. For them. And then immediately after the narrator, I think Muki says it in his head. Chica just pause and was like, hey, Muki, can I get your contact information? He's like, yeah, sure, no problem. And just, like, clearly showing that these two are overthinking everything, but then everyone else is just, like, moving right along, like it's life. And she gets the good outs for that. I did enjoy that.
Speaker A:Yeah. So that's that segment.
Speaker B:Cool.
Speaker A:Great fun. So we go back to them in the same room because 90% of this is in one room. The club they're talking about, oh, it's cold, it's winter. It's 14 degrees celsius out. I, as an American, know what that means. So they are looking forward to having a student council summer trip. So they're starting to plan ahead and think of what they want to do. Miyuki is like, a nice trip to the mountains. And in his head, he's like, oh, we're going to stargaze, and she's going to fall in love with me. And we'll hike in the woods and lovey dovey. Lovey dovey.
Speaker B:And Chica will also be there.
Speaker A:Chica will watch. Hold our clothes while we're a fucking chica's into that.
Speaker B:Oh, God, no.
Speaker C:Chica's supportive, even in some unfortunate position. Yes, I do like that he fantasizes of them like star gazing. And tagging confesses, like, I want to be your Alpha centauri to your galaxy nebula. It was like constellation. I was like, God, even in his head, he's a nerd. Even in the fantasy romance, it's nerdiest shit. Yeah.
Speaker A:And he still has, like, a fucking superiority complex about this perfect romance.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:You revolve around me, baby.
Speaker C:Smooch smooch.
Speaker A:So, of course she also wants to go to the mountains. And there's no conflict in this one. This is great.
Speaker C:It's a super simple anime. It's laid back camp.
Speaker A:Yeah, they agree with home love. No, she wants to go.
Speaker B:Shows over forever.
Speaker C:Yeah. Moving on.
Speaker A:They're done. Goodbye.
Speaker C:Next week.
Speaker A:Sorry, my computer just went black. There we go. Okay, so she wants to go to the sea, and of course she's fantasizing about oh, he'll see me in a bikini and he'll fall in love. And we'll make love by the ocean, and a crab will braid my hair down on me.
Speaker B:No, stop.
Speaker C:Hey, dugan, I'm never going to the beach at the end.
Speaker A:Good. So, yeah, she's fantasizing about that, and he's like, Holy shit, I can't swim. We can't do this. No panic. So he's trying to say all the problems of the beach, but she's like, oh, I'm rich. We'll have a shark hunter there on my private island, and we'll have a skincare technician so he won't get burned.
Speaker C:She says, I got a first class hunter, like, implying shark hunter from Florida. yo, I want to watch that anime. Florida man, the shark hunter.
Speaker A:She's shooting everything down and also starting to talk about why the mountains suck because there's bugs and the weather is unpredictable, and it could still be cold at night. He also is so afraid of bugs that he's like, oh, wait, yeah, the mountains fucking suck.
Speaker C:I want to go to a beach. I'd rather surround them to see bugs.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'll just hang out on the sand. He's like, fine, you win. So they agree to go to the beach, and she is like, oh, I outgrew my old bathing suit. I got to get a new one. And then she's like, Fuck, she's got them titties.
Speaker C:Damn titties.
Speaker A:I'm not going to fill out a bathing suit. Compared to her, she's she's dummy thick. But but she's dummy thick, mom.
Speaker B:And I'm just dummy.
Speaker C:I'm just dummy.
Speaker A:I'm mummy thick, not dummy thick.
Speaker C:My ass ain't thick. It's just my wallet.
Speaker A:So, yeah, she immediately is like, oh, we can't go to the beach because she's going to blow me out of the water with how beautiful she's going to be. And I have body image issues that we should unpack, but we're not going to. So now with them reverse, kaguya is like, oh, we got to go to the mountains. And Miyuki is like, oh, we got to go to the beach. So they leave it to Chica to decide, and she picks the mountains, but she wants to go to Mount osore, which apparently is like a big, spiritual, dark, windy place where you're in touch with the afterworld and the ghosts and all that. So she wants to do, like, seances and spooky Halloween, which does sound incredible.
Speaker B:Chico is a freak, and I love it.
Speaker A:Can we go to bloodborne Mountain?
Speaker C:Is that cool? Get the butcher's played already.
Speaker A:Yeah. So they're like, okay, fine. No one wins. No one's having a sexy time there.
Speaker C:Yeah, I think the end slate thing says, like, today's battle is like a wash because everyone's a little scared of chicanelle. Two quick questions for bingo card stuff. Did this count as a beach episode? Because we did see some beach stuff.
Speaker B:No, I would say no, technically, it's not.
Speaker A:I would say no since it doesn't take place at the beach. They're just thinking about it.
Speaker C:They're just daydreaming about it. Okay.
Speaker A:But to be fair, they are thinking about most of what happens in the show.
Speaker C:That's true. And two, they said in the first episode, miyuki was new to the school. Like, he recently got there. So does t count as a transfer student?
Speaker A:I don't think so, because we don't get the class. We have a new student today. So yes, he's new, but new as of that year. He's not we don't see him on his first day. Like every yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:He's still got a reputation. Like, he's his reputation isn't that he is the transfer student. He's his character.
Speaker C:Got you. Okay.
Speaker A:So, yeah, last section we have a boy comes in and ask me, yuki, for romance advice because he's like, oh, all these rumors that you're fucking 24/7. You're just a steam powered fuck machine. And he's like, oh, no. No one can know this because it's so unobvious to everyone, but I'm a virgin. Wow, you're blowing my mind there, Chad.
Speaker C:Who has seen that coming.
Speaker A:So, yeah, he takes this boy under his wing, takes him into the office, and gives him a good romance advice session. So he goes in basically this wow, innovative storyline. This boy thinks a girl likes him.
Speaker C:Cool.
Speaker A:And he likes her. Great.
Speaker C:Awesome.
Speaker A:Good stuff. But yeah, so he's like, oh, the hints. She gave me chocolate on valentine's Day. And they're like, oh, what kind of chocolate? He's like, oh, just like three little chocolate balls process. They're like, that's obligatory chocolate. And at this point, we have kaguya standing outside the door, peering in, just watching eavesdropping. And she's also like, yeah, that's a pat on the head for valentine's Day. But Muki is like, oh, no, she's being coy. She wants to bone down my dude. She's trying to throw you off the scent because I know nothing about romance. She's overhearing this and being like, he's a fucking idiot.
Speaker C:Cool. Great.
Speaker A:Yeah, she definitely is not into him. So we also hear that very clearly this girl, we get a little flashback, goes up to this boy and is like, hey, do you have a girlfriend? And he's like, no. What? Are you applying? And then she turns to her friends and is like, hey, this fucking loser doesn't have a girlfriend. dork has to be. So yeah, pretty clear she is not into him. But of course, Miyuki is still saying, oh, no, she's playing koi. She was gathering intelligence because you're so popular that she's trying to throw you off the scent. And all of this is code. And he goes back through this situation with the hidden subtext of everyone fawning over him. And it was all a ploy to actually just see if he's single. And now there's four girls that like him.
Speaker B:Oh, no.
Speaker A:What a problem that I'm sure Muki has all the time.
Speaker C:Harems. Am I right?
Speaker A:Of course kaguya still eavesdropping. It's like, you fucking idiot.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker A:You suck at this. But then when he finally asked, okay, so how do I ask her out? Miyuki demonstrates by doing the ultra popular and not at all creepy and predatory thing. He demonstrates against the door or that kaguya is eavesdropping against. So it's unclear if he knows she's there at that point. So he walks up, slams his hand on the door, and is like, hey, baby, go out with me. I like you. And he's like, yeah. So the slam on the wall is going to get her adrenaline up, and she's going to be so relieved you're not attacking her. She's going to go out with you. Great plan. Good thing.
Speaker B:It's like a thing in yowie mostly. And it kind of became a meme. Like people in Japan would post videos of them doing it. Yeah, I see it to their friends and stuff. So I think it's just like I mean, it is gross in this context.
Speaker A:Yeah, in this context, gross. Because we see boy actually does it and it works. And it's like, fucking great.
Speaker C:Cool courage. I always took it as, like the delinquent, the Danny zuko of animus going up and being the tough guy. Being like, I'm tough and rebel and I do my own thing, but I'm into you. And it's like, that that's how I always saw it.
Speaker B:Yeah. I think his explanation is the real.
Speaker A:Problem here because it is supposed to be like a bad boy thing. But it's like yeah. So you slam your hand against the wall right next to her, get her real scared, flashbang into the hallway, you startle her, and then you pin her against the wall so she can't escape.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, dude.
Speaker C:Once again, this is why most animals are in high school because these kids are dumb. They cause their own problems.
Speaker A:Yeah, I was really struggling with the sort of like it's always sunny aspect of you're supposed to hate these dipshits, they're terrible. But that's on purpose. And that's the joke. I just kept bumping up against that. But, yeah, of course kaguya is all flustered because he basically did this just on the other side of the wall. And she's all like, oh, he says, he asked me out. Does he know I'm here? And then finally the boy is like, oh, well, you and kaguya are such a cute couple because you're dating, right? Right. And he's like, oh, no, she's so pompous and rich and all that. I hate her. But actually it's fantastic. I love her. She goes, Good. She's great. I really appreciate her. Because he sees her hair sticking out through the doorway. So he catches himself and he's like, let me plant the seeds. Let me plant the seed.
Speaker C:Let me backpedal here.
Speaker A:It's not me admitting it publicly because she's eavesdropping and she can't admit it. We see that boy asks Girl out and she reluctantly says yes.
Speaker C:Cool.
Speaker A:Great fun. And that's where we end episode two.
Speaker B:What? So in episode three, we start again in the student council room and sorry, there's an inappropriate magazine that the principal confiscated from someone smud. I can't tell if it's supposed to be like smut or if it's supposed to be just like, a teen magazine. I think it's supposed to be like.
Speaker C:A cosmic yeah, that's what I was thinking it was. It was like, yeah, it's hilacious, but not just full on porn.
Speaker B:Yeah, but so Chica picks it up, opens to a page and she's like, scandalized by it.
Speaker C:It's too crude.
Speaker B:And then miyuki. This part was fucking buck wild. Zero to 100. milky was just like, what could it be? nudity with pubicans?
Speaker C:Yeah. As soon as I was like, wow, we found out a lot about muki in that one sentence there that was so weird.
Speaker B:I was like, hello? What?
Speaker C:I mean, Japan, you know, the first.
Speaker A:Thing a high school boy always wants to see is pew.
Speaker C:I mean, you find those hustlers in the woods. You find those hustlers in the woods. And it's just, like, from the 70s, so just like, a lot of bush.
Speaker B:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker A:Yeah, maybe that's it.
Speaker B:Maybe he found it on his grandpa's father.
Speaker C:That's very fun.
Speaker B:So in the magazine, there's a survey of when people have their, quote, first time, and 34% said that it was in high school. And they're like, oh, if that statistic is true, then there's a chance that, like, one of the three of us has already had their first time. And then miuki and Chica are just like, oh, yeah, well, it's just because of the people that they surveyed, like, sample selection bias. And I was just like, I know about that. I learned about that in my sociology class.
Speaker A:I'm smart. I'm a good noodle. Yeah.
Speaker B:And also because of social desirability. And people want to say that they've done things like that earlier in life because it makes them seem cooler, but that's not what this is about anyway.
Speaker C:That's too smart for this show.
Speaker B:But then kaguya is like, no, I think that sounds about right. My first time was a long time ago.
Speaker C:What?
Speaker B:And they're all just like and then we've seen Miyuki reading the phone book to distract himself.
Speaker C:Look at that. The area code for the town over seven one three. Isn't that neat?
Speaker A:I'm not intimidated.
Speaker B:And then kaguya is like she has this thought process where she's like, oh, well, if Miyuki is stressing about falling behind socially, maybe he'll ask her out, like, by default. So she pokes fun at him, and she's like, hey, do you have a girlfriend? And he's like, no, I don't. And in his head, he's like, I've never had a romantic experience in my life. But a lot of girls do like him, but no one that he's liked. So he's also really confident in himself because so many girls like him. So he has a skewed perception of himself, which in the show, they say makes him a twisted monster version, which.
Speaker A:We know is an incel code name.
Speaker C:Yeah, he would get gifts from other girls, like innis locker, like chocolates, but then the chocolate is full of hair. And then I was like, oh, do.
Speaker B:You guys see midsummer?
Speaker C:No, I don't want that.
Speaker B:Okay, never mind. You should. It's a good movie.
Speaker A:Have you seen the help?
Speaker B:No, but I have seen that scene, and it makes me want to vomit. And then she gets bold and just straight up asks him if he's a virgin. And he thinks it through, and he's like, Should I lie? No, because she'll just see through me. So he kind of says something vaguely and flirty. He's like, oh, like, ask me directly and I'm just like, she did.
Speaker A:It was something like, have you had a girlfriend? He's like, not in a long time. Or I forget the actual phrasing, but it technically troubled. No, but it also leaves wiggle room on if it never happened or it's just been a while. So it's that wiggle room of I answered your question. Just I also asked more questions.
Speaker B:And then it's at this point, kaguya is like, well, you have a little sister, right? Like, surely you've done it with your little sister.
Speaker C:What?
Speaker B:I did it with my baby nephew. It was videotape. And it's at this point, you're like, oh, okay. She's not talking about it. Yeah, she doesn't know what this is. And then she asks about Chica and her dog. Like, she must be doing it with her dog. And chica is like, what? herbert unclean?
Speaker C:Yeah, Miyuki, you're doing it with your dog. She's like, what? No, don't say that.
Speaker B:And then Miyuki at this point is like, kaguya, do you know what the magazine means by first time? And she's like, of course I do.
Speaker A:Kissing bonnie.
Speaker B:And then we find out. This was interesting, too. This is, like, an interesting plot point that would be fun to dive into, but it still won't because it's a comedy. The beginning and end of her sex education is kissing. Like, I didn't write down what the whiteboard said, but yeah, it said something about, like, you get married and then you kiss kind of thing. So then Chica and Mukir standing there, and Chica puts her hand up, and she's like, I'll take this one.
Speaker C:Take one for the team.
Speaker B:And she goes over to her.
Speaker A:This was the only moment that actually got a laugh out of me of just Chica being like, I got this.
Speaker B:And she just, like, bends down, and she says in, like, really simple she's like and then he puts it in, and then they start moving, and then it says, like, 16 minutes later. And kaguya is, like, blushing and crying.
Speaker C:I like, that one of the words we ted from Chica are, like, beast.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because there are all three of them. It's illegal. You can't do it before you're married.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, the three of them are just having, like, separate mental breakdowns about that. And then we get to, like, the next part, and it's nighttime, and it's just Miyuki and kaguya in the student council room, and miuki remarks that he thinks kaguya has kind of mellowed out since they've met. And she says, like, oh, yeah, I'm trying to be, like, more likable.
Speaker C:I'm putting effort into it.
Speaker B:Yeah. Emmyuki is like, I think I know you pretty well by now. And she's like, let's test that. Let's play 20 questions. And in my mind, I was like, oh, fuck, boy. 20 questions. Like, what's your favorite color? Yellow. You a virgin.
Speaker C:Got you.
Speaker B:But she's like, if you know me so well, you can guess what I'm thinking in only ten questions. So he takes the challenge and he just starts asking her questions. And it's got the same silly intensity of the rest of the show where they're competing, whatever. And he asks if she's touched it today, does she own it? And then he says, Is it something you like? And she blushes and she's like, yeah. And he's like, oh, it's me.
Speaker C:It's got to be me.
Speaker B:It's got to be me.
Speaker C:Please let it be me.
Speaker B:And so he's, like, freaking out. And it's his last question. And he's like, is it someone who is extremely intelligent and good looking and all of this really complimentary stuff that.
Speaker A:He thinks about himself and defined eyes.
Speaker C:Yeah, defined eyes.
Speaker B:And she doesn't answer. And he's, like, really convinced it's him. And he's like, it's a roundabout confession. And he's really excited, but also really nervous. So instead of guessing out loud that it's him, he's like, Is it a dog? And she's just like, yes. And then she drops a piece of paper and you see that she's written on it the name of Chica's Dog shit. He got it. Yeah. And he does understand her. Proves it, that they both overthink things too much and they know that about each other. And then it's the last portion. And we see kaguya being driven to school because she's rich. And then one day there's a cat stuck in the car's engine.
Speaker C:It's alive. It doesn't want to get out of there.
Speaker B:Yeah. Just to be clear, she's like, it's.
Speaker C:Off to the crowd. But as a kid.
Speaker B:She'S like, oh, I'll just walk to school. Because she really wants to, because it's an experience she's never had. So she wants to. And the driver is like, oh, well, your maid should go with you. And her maid's like, yeah, I'll do that. And then she, like, winks at her. Winks at her. And she's like, ah, no, she can go by herself. It's fine.
Speaker A:Finally we can hang out one on one as friends.
Speaker C:Never mind. I have to do your laundry.
Speaker A:Back to back laundry.
Speaker B:That way.
Speaker C:Back to the mind.
Speaker B:She truly understands kaguya. She knows that she wanted to walk by herself.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:She'S on her way. And she's like, oh, well, Miyuki usually takes his bike to school, so I'll wait on the bridge on the street that he's usually on and we'll go in together. And then she sees a crying kid at a crosswalk. And she, like looks at her and then is like, well, if I don't hurry, I'll miss him. I knew that she was going to go back, but God, I wish that she didn't.
Speaker C:Sucks to be that kid. Moving on.
Speaker B:Yeah. But she does go back. And she's like, hey, what's going on? And the little girl is like, I'm too afraid to cross the street by myself. So kaguya walks her across, and when she tries to leave the little girl is like, please, there's lots of crosswalks on my way to school.
Speaker C:It's far.
Speaker B:So she walks her to school. And the little girl explains that her friend usually goes with her. But because they're in 6th grade now, her friend thinks it's too childish to walk to school in groups. And she like, bursts out crying again. And kaguya kind of consoles her. And then she sees her friend and they they walk off together. Because I think her friend also kind of regretted not walking to school together.
Speaker C:One scene I really like is when she's talking about her friend. She says, like, oh, my friend yeti. She confirms the abominable snowman. No, it's like her nickname. Her name's this, but we call her yeti. And then in that scene, for like two or three frames in the very left, you can see a yeti walking across the street.
Speaker B:Oh, man, that's so good.
Speaker C:The grandparents is one of those little details where it's like, I love it.
Speaker B:Yeah. And then kaguya is like, where am I? And then she finds her way back to the main streets. And she's like, oh, I don't want them to know that I was late to school because then I'll never be able to do something like this again. But at least she got to try it once. And she's staring wistfully off into the distance. And then we see Miyuki just rushing up on his bike so late. And he's going to be late. They're both going to be late. And he's like, oh, what are you doing here? And she's like, I was walking. And he's like, well, get on because we can't both be late because that's a bad example. We're the student council.
Speaker C:We are gods.
Speaker B:So she hops on the back of his bike and when he rides, he takes her to school. That's the word. It's an acute little moment. She's enjoying enjoying the wind through her hair. That's episode three.
Speaker C:Oh, we didn't talk about the endings. The ending for episode two was like a World War One visual.
Speaker B:I didn't watch either of the endings, honestly. I watched some of this one.
Speaker A:Yeah, the third one caught my eye because I was like, what?
Speaker C:Yeah, so it was jarring for me because there wasn't one for episode one. Episode two was like it was them in World War One or something. So it was like, oh, neat, but very different than I was expecting. And then yes, ending for episode three was Chica dancing.
Speaker B:And I was like, oh, yeah, I've heard this song. I know this song.
Speaker C:I was like, I know this because I've seen this like her take it out of the video and like, Bone thugs and Harmony are playing over top of it, like a Skip Dog or something. So I've seen this. This is like the meme one. I was like, oh, okay. I know this. But I was like, is the ending different for. Every episode. that'd be interesting.
Speaker A:I mean, they save so much goddamn money because they only have to animate one room.
Speaker C:The venom just 35.
Speaker B:It's true. Anyway, that's how he feeling.
Speaker C:Kagia love his war.
Speaker A:I like it a little better now that we talked about it. I'm having a grumpy morning. I'll admit my five, but yeah, just my initial watch through, I was like, it's just a bunch of spoiled rich kids being overanalytical and just being shitty to each other for like toxic relationship reasons of, like, holding the other person hostage. And it's like, this isn't great. It isn't like a good I can't remember if this was on Mike or off, but Brendan said, like, this would work better if it was like a Hitalia style of like five minute episodes because it's the same thing three times every episode.
Speaker C:Yeah, there's clear, like, segments.
Speaker A:Yeah. So I because watching this, I was like, this works as like a sketch. You're drawing it out into a series and this is too much.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's kind of like they tried to frame it like anichijo or an azumanga dio. But it's like not if they were more different, like each segment, then I think it would be easier to watch.
Speaker A:Like even take them out of the one room and like, oh, this is like cafeteria lunch. Like, who's going to sit next to who? They're too rich to take a bus, but who saves the scene? Who does that? There's so much variance that they're missing because I don't know if they just have the budget for one room because we see them outside in this last episode. And they do change places occasionally. Just not most of the time.
Speaker C:I think the club room is just an easy way to just have only the main characters in a small, contained room and they could do whatever they want without someone seeing or something. So it's just a convenient plot device rather than budgetary reasons.
Speaker B:This last part, though, in episode three was pretty refreshing, all things considered, because it's not in the school and it's also just kaguya. And she's not focused on miyuki. So it's like a nice change of pace.
Speaker C:Yeah. We could see something developing with just her. Yeah.
Speaker A:Because we do get these little glimpses of them beyond just scheming over each other. Like, oh, yeah, she has a very sheltered, very kind of fucked up childhood because she's a rich kid and has a superiority complex. But she has no friends and doesn't know what sex is at like 16 and all that stuff. It's like, yeah, there's a lot going on here. I feel like you're we're either just not getting to it at this point because they want a slower reveal on like, hey, we're two lonely, messed up, fucked up kids and we're going to end up falling in love because we're good for each other. But now it's just the toxic combative aspects of falling in love, which I don't like.
Speaker B:Fair.
Speaker C:Yeah. I'll say I got strong. You might want to cover your ears, stupid, for this kaki guru. I got strong vibes of that, especially the mind games. And like you were saying, dugan for.
Speaker B:Black hair and red eyes.
Speaker C:Yeah, I guess that would work too. Yeah. And like you were saying, it's all mind games, so it's all in their head. So they're not actually doing it much beyond just talking. But if there's more, like, physical elements to it, or if they're doing, like, games or something or somewhere else besides them just in the student council room talking again, it's just the same puzzle or competition over and over. It's just theorizing about different stuff over and over and over again. that'd be more refreshing. I will say I hated taking notes on the show.
Speaker A:Yeah, this was a chore.
Speaker C:But I didn't mind the show itself. I didn't hate the show. I hated taking notes on it, though.
Speaker B:Because it's so analytical once you realize that almost all of it is just kind of, like useless.
Speaker C:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, my notes were so condensed because I didn't write most of it. Like, I was just like, I'm not going to write down every question he asks her. That's useless.
Speaker C:Yeah, I was just writing down a lot of stuff. Like, he did this because he thinks she's going to do this because she thinks the reason he's doing this dumb thing is because, like, a train of logic. But it's just like eight steps to that train of logic. Yeah. I was enjoying it, though. And like, I could I don't know if it's, like, hooking me, but like, the third episode definitely was, I would say the strongest because we see enough diversity in it and yeah, not the same segment over and over again. I love chica. Great character.
Speaker A:Fantastic.
Speaker B:I think this was really fun because, like and we touched on it a little bit, like, throughout the episode. But it is just like it's so absurd and it is just the thought processes of, like, a lot of high school students exaggerated. And I just think it's so funny. This had me laughing quite a bit. I was just like, oh, my God. What?
Speaker C:Yeah, there were some moments that definitely got a good fall out of me, but after we were done watching us, like, it's just Death Note because that's what Death Note is. There's not a ton of action in Death Note. And that's why we have the infamous scene of him writing in his book and taking a chip and eating it and it's all like, hyper.
Speaker B:Death Note takes itself.
Speaker C:Death Note is so serious, but it is that still, like, same pacing where it's just like, we don't have a ton of work with here, so we're just going to like that's why there's so many scenes of them thinking and there's crazy visuals going on. The background, like math and all that stuff. Because it's like otherwise it's just two characters in a room talking for five minutes.
Speaker A:I feel like the ridiculousness wasn't over the top enough for me because she had all these plots on stage people to convince him to buy a phone. I just wanted the wild antics of her, just like very crazy ex girlfriend stuff of, oh, yeah, I bought this party bus so we can go and spend time together. And just like wild, extravagant excuses to just throw money at the problem and just bankrupt yourself trying to win this guy's heart.
Speaker C:Yeah, they kind of play up, though. These two characters are both kind of dumb and you kind of are dear to them because of, like, these two dumb kids trying to figure stuff out. But they do take themselves pretty seriously at times. But if it was more ridiculous of her pleading to her gardener, you got to go to the mall at this time. Walk by this guy talking loudly about how great your new phone is. He's like, what? No. Why would I do it?
Speaker A:Please.
Speaker C:If she's begging 200, I'll just throw money at you. If we saw that scene, I would have liked that a lot.
Speaker A:Yeah, but yeah. So less bad than I initially thought. But still going to be a no.
Speaker C:It's progress, though. That's progress.
Speaker B:Maybe there's more ridiculousness in future episodes, but I don't know if I'll watch more. I think it's fun.
Speaker C:It was a good time. I didn't mind it.
Speaker A:Well, for next week, let's have some more fun. Let's play some games. Let's play some board games to determine your soul. This is a recommendation. parsons. We're watching. No game, no life.
Speaker C:I've watched this.
Speaker B:I've heard of it. I've never watched it.
Speaker A:I know will recommended it. That's all I got.
Speaker C:That's good enough for us.
Speaker B:Thank you, Will.
Speaker A:So, yeah, if you have a show you would like us to watch, you can send your recommendations to us at our email. Are we there yet@gmail.com? Or reach out to us on Twitter and Instagram. Are we there yet? On both. You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at mrpatrick. Dugan. And real quick, I have something else to plug for once in my goddamn life.
Speaker B:Oh, boy.
Speaker A:I'm working on a new podcast outside of this as well trainer called the no earbuds Podcast. And it's music recommendations from a great music PR person, Jamie coletta, who's good friends and a good person and knows all the good music. So I hopped in on episode three, but three episodes are out now and listen to some new tunes. ooh, new did you very nice.
Speaker B:You can find me on Instagram at queen. Period. weaboo and on Twitter at queen underscore Weebu and Queen underscore Weebu art.
Speaker C:You can find me at Twitter at abts brendan and it stands for Almost Better Than Silence, which is a video game podcast. I do and record in about an hour, so it's a big podcast.
Speaker A:Dave thank you to camille ruley for her artwork, and thank you to louie zong for theme song stories off the album beats. You can find all of louie's music at Louisong bandcamp.com. Thank you, and we hope you'll join us next week as we learn to live with anime.
Speaker B:Just tell people how you feel. It's much easier that way.
Speaker C:It's so simple. There's a lot of drama you create.
Speaker A:Yourself by a husband, by.
Episode Notes
Stoic teens and mind games are perfect for Valentines Day! We watch Kaguya-sama: Love is War!
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